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Funny how questions like this were completely ignored in the previous conversation where people were shitting on the homeless, but suddenly are important now th
by tedivm 4y ago
Funny how questions like this were completely ignored in the previous conversation where people were shitting on the homeless, but suddenly are important now that the homeless aren't the target anymore.
- soundsabout 4y agoThe cognitive dissonance here is becoming farcical quickly. Careful, people really don't like it when you point it out! I was really hoping the grandparent was being tongue-in-cheek but, the lie-to-myself kind of hope.
- __pache__ 4y agoI'm confused, what's your point? It's a "win" that this killing was by a certain person? Has nothing to do with shit on the streets, etc. etc.
- fghsqwads 4y ago[flagged]
- anigbrowl 4y agoNo, it's a win that poor people (most of whom are not violent criminals) are not being unfairly proxy-blamed for this murder any more.
- __pache__ 4y ago[flagged]
- jakelazaroff 4y agoHere's how the cycle works. We decide a certain group of people ("literally the dregs [sic] of society") causes most of our problems. Then we pass laws targeting that group, and enforce the laws most strictly against against that group — and surprise, that group ends up getting caught breaking the law most often! Then we use that to drum up further public sentiment against that group. Rinse, repeat. Crime is a social construct. We choose what's illegal and what's not. We enforce some of the laws, against some of the people, some of the time. Saying that a certain group commits the vast majority of crimes is meaningless without additional context. And if your additional context is that they're "literally the dregs of society", you're not being serious — you just have an axe to grind.
- __pache__ 4y agoHard disagree, people are responsible for themselves. Sure society can suck, but ultimately rising out of that is your problem. See: like, everyone's history? > Saying that a certain group commits the vast majority of crimes is meaningless without additional context. are there poor people who totally deserve it? is it the majority of them?
- throwntoday 4y ago[flagged]
- shadowgovt 4y agoThe citizens of a city are the citizens, not a drain. A city that considers its citizens a "drain" has optimized for something other than being a city.
- throwntoday 4y agoPeople living on the street are not citizens.
- shadowgovt 4y agoDefinitionally untrue.
- feanaro 4y agoWhat the hell? Losing your home makes you a non-citizen? Were you ironic?
- misssocrates 4y agoI may have missed that one or didn't think of the question yet.