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btjunkie says goodbye
- slapnuts 15y agoThe end is nigh.
- mattdeboard 15y agoThe end of...?
- deleted 15y ago[deleted]
- nuttendorfer 15y agoSmaller trackers that will be targeted next.
- 8ig8 15y agoSome background: BT = Bit Torrent (search engine) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTJunkie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTJunkie
- someone13 15y agoWow. Btjunkie was in the Alexa top 500 too (#390) - it wasn't exactly a small site. Here's a screenshot of the Alexa ranking, for posterity: http://imgur.com/U7dex http://imgur.com/U7dex
- m_eiman 15y agoYou probably shouldn't rely on imgur for posterity… Put it on a server that you control.
- krambs 15y agoEnd of an era.
- pyre 15y agoAs was the shutdown of Napster, and the shutdown of other trackers like SuprNova (as someone else mentioned). I'm actually surprised that some sites have made it this long. It's not like the MAFIAA hasn't taken down sites in the past. But the last few years seem to have been somewhat quiet on that front. Seems like they were spending their time getting the FBI and Congress to fight their battles for them; the government just moves at a slower pace.
- chimeracoder 15y agoThis is the scary part about bills like SOPA. Who cares if they're constitutional, who care if they could stand up in court, who cares if the public supports them? They do their job anyway, even if they don't pass. Glenn Greenwald was right about this - we didn't win the SOPA battle; we lost it. The very next day after all the hullabaloo and protests, the government went ahead and showed that the powers that SOPA would have been redundant - it already has those powers anyway.
- pyre 15y ago> it already has those powers anyway. It didn't take Megaupload down without a trial, without due process. They took them down as part of a 2 year long investigation. While it's possible that they timed the takedown with SOPA, I would err on the side of coincidence. This wasn't an operation entirely within the US. They had the coordination of law enforcement in other counties. This isn't something where they just had a late-night idea that they decided to act on.
- nknight 15y agoIt doesn't matter how long they run for, how thorough they are, or what they find, investigations are not trials, nor do they constitute due process. Your statement is obviously false on its face.
- forrestthewoods 15y agodue process. noun. "An established course for judicial proceedings or other governmental activities designed to safeguard the legal rights of the individual." The law, and due process, were followed to the letter. A grand jury indicted MegaUpload of racketeering conspiracy and conspiracy to commit copyright amongst other charges.
- disposable1984 15y agoA grand jury indicted MegaUpload of racketeering conspiracy and conspiracy to commit copyright amongst other charges. As someone once said, you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.
- citricsquid 15y agoWikipedia states that the site was commercial, considering the amount of traffic it had does this mean they were making money from it or was it a volunteer organisation using adverts to cover costs? I've never used the site and Wikipedia doesn't explain any of that.
- WalterSear 15y agocommercial venture.
- LefterisJP 15y agoAnother one going down makes you think how exactly did we win with SOPA and what we are going to do with ACTA
- bitsoda 15y agoMeanwhile, The Pirate Bay is still up despite it being shut down numerous times. It truly is the boy who cried wolf of torrent indexes.
- dasil003 15y agoI don't like that analogy. TPB has faced serious legal troubles but has stood up for their principles. I don't necessarily agree with their principles, but I don't think this is fun and games for them.
- dagw 15y agoIt's worth noting that people involved in TPB have been fined millions of dollars, sentenced to jail and fled their country to avoid justice. Not everybody is willing to go those sorts of extremes to run a website.
- bj0rnbj0rn 15y agofled their country? AFAIK they're all still living in Sweden.
- dagw 15y agoLast I heard non of them where Swedish residents. Fredrik Neij lives in Thailand and last I heard Svartholm Warg lived in Cambodia of all places. I believe the other two defendants live in Switzerland.
- ericflo 15y agoAnyone remember Suprnova.org?
- yxhuvud 15y agoYes. Trackers come, trackers go.
- joenathan 15y agoThere has never been as site as good as Suprnova, it made thepiratebay look like junk, Mininova was my next favorite...
- RatOrigami 15y agoTorrentreactor still works.
- szcukg 15y agobtjunkie will be missed
- xpose2000 15y agoSad news. :(
- rangibaby 15y agoAnother one bites the dust... and TPB sails on!
- vy8vWJlco 15y agoI feel like I have been working to train and support people, and giving people legs in the form of networks and software just so they can turn around and kick me with them. Did we do this to ourselves?
- dwyer 15y agoHacker News double standard: * A company like Zynga who runs a completely legal business and employ thousands of people with good wages and benefits by copying game concepts is generally considered evil. * A torrent tracker or file locker that makes a handful of employees rich by ripping off thousands of artists, musicians and filmmakers and serving spammy aggressive popup ads shut down and are considered martyrs. Somebody care to explain?
- scotty79 15y agoBecause making people into addicts for profit by using inoriginal ideas is bad and enabling people to share for free is good?
- pyre 15y agoThe flaw in your logic is that you're treating a group of people as if they are a single person with a singular set of ideas, views and motivations.
- ahelwer 15y agoIt's not a flaw so much as having too broad a scope. It is certainly the case that a sizeable subset of people here hold such views, which are in turn upheld by upvotes. When called out they should respond, not fail to appear.
- greyish_water 15y agoIs a group of Nazis less wrong than one Nazi?
- chadzawistowski 15y agoAgreed. The first example which comes to mind: not all pirate sites are centered around personal profit.
- quaunaut 15y agoTorrent trackers or file lockers that make a handful of employees rich? Haha. Good one! Oh you're funny oh wait no you don't actually understand the economics of this at all do you
- matmann2001 15y agoDoes anyone else suspect that this shut down was not as "voluntary" as stated? Now is the moment in history where people need to speak up for the protection of their rights on the internet, and before the culmination of these struggles has even begun, btjunkie is throwing in the towel? Do they know something we don't?
- pyre 15y agoI'm thinking that the idea of jail time instead of just an un-payable debt (after a long civil suit) could be a deciding factor.
- alan_cx 15y agoAh, I just made the same point, ish. Should have read further before posting. I think this is a reaction to megaupload and perhaps an unofficial nudge. This might be the first of a few, or many. The "authorities" are simply scaring people off the web.
- jonhendry 15y ago"Now is the moment in history where people need to speak up for the protection of their rights on the internet" People are. They're just not speaking up for the "rights" you are thinking of.
- spoiledtechie 15y agoSo incredibly sad.... Anyone know who started the site or how to get in touch with them? I would love a crack at their code base....
- zobzu 15y agoits been a long ride, bye!
- oliveoil 15y agoWouldn't it be enough to just move sites like this to for instance Russia?
- Elhana 15y agoYour assumption there is no law against piracy in Russia is false. Russia is not a great idea, our gov took torrents.ru domain away without any trial as well. They are not so active as in USA, but since Russia is on the way to WTO, btjunkie wouldve been closed rather fast if it would be demanded.
- jonhendry 15y agoAnd if not the government, organized crime would likely demand a cut.
- alan_cx 15y agoDo people think that shutting down the site prevents prosecution? I don't. My assumption here is that they, and possibly others, have been told to shut down or face Megaupload treatment. I wonder if we will see few others make the same "decision".
- furyofantares 15y agoThere are only finite resources available to pursue prosecution. If the choice is between prosecuting the owners of a site that continues to operate versus one that has ceased operation, I expect the choice would be to go after the one that continues to operate.
- zokiboy 15y agoIsn't there a way to create a database of torrents without using http protocol, by relying only on peer2peer network? It would be much harder to shutdown each peer individually.
- icebraining 15y agoThat's what Tribler[1] claims it does. I've never used it. And while it doesn't use bittorrent, eMule has had completely decentralized file searches using the Kad[2] network for years now. [1]: http://www.tribler.org/ http://www.tribler.org/ [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kad_network https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kad_network
- known 15y agoWhat next http://www.usniff.com/ http://www.usniff.com/ ?