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Well, the first step would be to get both men and women disconnected from virtual stimuli like porn and social media. Satisfying ones sexual and emotional needs

by 127 4y ago

Well, the first step would be to get both men and women disconnected from virtual stimuli like porn and social media. Satisfying ones sexual and emotional needs through the screen doesn't seem like a good thing if the goal is to make young men and women get together.

ulfw 4y ago
So you want to ban porn sites and outlaw Hackernews or what concrete examples do you have in mind for "disconnecting from virtual stimuli like porn and social media"
- 127 4y ago
  I did not say anything like that.
  - Thiez 4y ago
    Then what are you saying? Give some specific examples.
  - flangola7 4y ago
    It sure sounds like it. I roll my eyes any time someone tries to scapegoat porn.
- frereubu 4y ago
  This is a very bad faith characterisation of the comment you're replying to.
  - Thiez 3y ago
    Since 127 refuses to elaborate, what do you think they meant, that doesn't imply banning porn and hackernews?
Tozen 4y ago
It appears your idea is bias towards and directed more at men. You can't put the "porn genie" into the bottle, as VPN exists. And if they want to go beyond the screen, in South Korea, paying for sex is easy to do and find. In regards to women, such stimuli is more diffuse, and even harder to disconnect. Women take in TV dramas, "light" sex fantasy books, sexually suggestive social media (that stays below a certain threshold), have a wider array of social networks and interactions, have easier access to sex toys (even innocent looking items), easier access to hidden or one off sexual encounters... It's arguably not a matter that young men and women can't get together. It's more a matter of expectations, female hypergamy, materialism, social bullying, etc... Those young men are seeking to avoid being uncomfortable and social interactions they don't like or do well in. The overall mindset needs to change, to allow those men to interact with a greater choice of women and to do so more comfortably. Until then, they will just continue to socially withdrawal, VPN porn, or pay for play (including hidden as "massages" and "haircuts").
- 127 3y ago
  Smoking wasn't banned. It went away through awareness campaigns, higher taxes and banning it in restaurants. Things like that. Smokers didn't go to jail for smoking. Selling cigarettes wasn't banned.

by 127 4y ago

ulfw 4y ago

So you want to ban porn sites and outlaw Hackernews or what concrete examples do you have in mind for "disconnecting from virtual stimuli like porn and social media"

127 4y ago
I did not say anything like that.
- Thiez 4y ago
  Then what are you saying? Give some specific examples.
- flangola7 4y ago
  It sure sounds like it. I roll my eyes any time someone tries to scapegoat porn.
frereubu 4y ago
This is a very bad faith characterisation of the comment you're replying to.
- Thiez 3y ago
  Since 127 refuses to elaborate, what do you think they meant, that doesn't imply banning porn and hackernews?

Tozen 4y ago

It appears your idea is bias towards and directed more at men. You can't put the "porn genie" into the bottle, as VPN exists. And if they want to go beyond the screen, in South Korea, paying for sex is easy to do and find. In regards to women, such stimuli is more diffuse, and even harder to disconnect. Women take in TV dramas, "light" sex fantasy books, sexually suggestive social media (that stays below a certain threshold), have a wider array of social networks and interactions, have easier access to sex toys (even innocent looking items), easier access to hidden or one off sexual encounters... It's arguably not a matter that young men and women can't get together. It's more a matter of expectations, female hypergamy, materialism, social bullying, etc... Those young men are seeking to avoid being uncomfortable and social interactions they don't like or do well in. The overall mindset needs to change, to allow those men to interact with a greater choice of women and to do so more comfortably. Until then, they will just continue to socially withdrawal, VPN porn, or pay for play (including hidden as "massages" and "haircuts").

127 3y ago
Smoking wasn't banned. It went away through awareness campaigns, higher taxes and banning it in restaurants. Things like that. Smokers didn't go to jail for smoking. Selling cigarettes wasn't banned.