> objectively one of the most violent cities in the country The news article (and many comments in this thread) says the exact opposite: > San Francisco is ho

> objectively one of the most violent cities in the country The news article (and many comments in this thread) says the exact opposite: > San Francisco is home to much in the way of visible public misery, unnerving street behavior and overt drug-use. Its property crime rate has long been high, and the police clearance rate for property crimes has long been minimal. But the city’s violent crime rate is at a near-historic low and is lower than that in most mid-to-large-sized cities. Property crime is sky-high, sure. Violent crime is a totally different category. It is important not to mix them up. 2021 homicide rate across comparable cities: St Louis 66.5 Detroit 47.9 Phila 34.8 Milwaukee 33.9 ... Austin 8.2 SF 6.9 ... NY 5.5 https://abc7news.com/amp/san-francisco-crime-rate-bob-lee-sf-violent-map/13091172/ https://abc7news.com/amp/san-francisco-crime-rate-bob-lee-sf... We can talk about other types of violent crime (maybe the other ones are higher, I haven't looked into them recently) but let's at least stick to the well-defined categories and since you said it's "objectively one of the most violent" then we should be able to back that up with stats in each category: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/violent-crime/violent-crime https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-...