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Yeah that‘s because there is a policy not to build one until after exiting nuclear power. Finland did it within a few years. Germany has a very good geology for

by JanSt 3y ago

Yeah that‘s because there is a policy not to build one until after exiting nuclear power. Finland did it within a few years. Germany has a very good geology for nuclear waste.

Mashimo 3y ago
> Finland did it within a few years Well 40 years :D But that includes building it. > The site was selected after a long process, which started in 1983 with a screening of the whole Finnish territory. > The facility is expected to be operational in 2023. I bet there where not many demonstrations in Finland. It will take Germany 40 years just to find a site. And then the demonstrations start.
- ChuckNorris89 3y ago
  Because the Finns are pragmatic while the Germans are just idiotically idealistic and will protest against any change, even if it's for the greater good. Also doesn't help that most recent German chancellors form Schroeder to Merkel were in bed with the Kremlin for whom nuclear was a threat to their gas business so spreading anti nuclear propaganda through the media to the gullible German public was a necessary move.
  - hutzlibu 3y ago
    Do you have any more insightful nationalistic cliches to share?
    - ChuckNorris89 3y ago
      Sorry to be blunt and snarky but check your energy bill. You pay twice per kwh what Finns pay while breathing in more coal fine-dust and therefore having a shorter lifespan. Nuff said.
      - LargoLasskhyfv 3y ago
        Oh come on... https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraftwerk_Datteln#/media/Datei:Kraftwerk_Datteln_IV_Neubau.JPG https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraftwerk_Datteln#/media/Datei... Coal gave us such nice installations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahedron_in_Bottrop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahedron_in_Bottrop Pretty shiny, isn't it?
  - bayesian_horse 3y ago
    Finland is a small country with a small population. It is futile to compare small countries with large countries. Small countries are much more likely to get lucky in certain regards, for example with a selection of suitable storage sites nobody lives close to. Or with a political climate that is amenable to such things. Also nuclear power was seen as an advantage because Russia is right next door. Finland is just in a much different position than Germany. We had a nuclear storage site picked out long ago. Then it turned out it wasn't suitable. That's at least as much bad luck as "lack of foresight" or anything else. Finland didn't have that problem. If their storage site turned out to be unsuitable after decades of preparation, maybe they wouldn't continue with nuclear power either. Last: You accuse others of propaganda but use a phrase like "in bed with the Kremlin" and spout conspiracy theories. You don't understand German politics. Mistakes were made. Presuming malice is convenient and lazy.
  - Mashimo 3y ago
    > Because the Finns are pragmatic while the Germans are just idiotically idealistic and will protest against any change, even if it's for the greater good. Exactly, which why nuclear is not the best option for Germany.

by JanSt 3y ago

Yeah that‘s because there is a policy not to build one until after exiting nuclear power. Finland did it within a few years. Germany has a very good geology for nuclear waste.

Mashimo 3y ago

> Finland did it within a few years Well 40 years :D But that includes building it. > The site was selected after a long process, which started in 1983 with a screening of the whole Finnish territory. > The facility is expected to be operational in 2023. I bet there where not many demonstrations in Finland. It will take Germany 40 years just to find a site. And then the demonstrations start.

ChuckNorris89 3y ago
Because the Finns are pragmatic while the Germans are just idiotically idealistic and will protest against any change, even if it's for the greater good. Also doesn't help that most recent German chancellors form Schroeder to Merkel were in bed with the Kremlin for whom nuclear was a threat to their gas business so spreading anti nuclear propaganda through the media to the gullible German public was a necessary move.
- hutzlibu 3y ago
  Do you have any more insightful nationalistic cliches to share?
  - ChuckNorris89 3y ago
    Sorry to be blunt and snarky but check your energy bill. You pay twice per kwh what Finns pay while breathing in more coal fine-dust and therefore having a shorter lifespan. Nuff said.
    - LargoLasskhyfv 3y ago
      Oh come on... https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraftwerk_Datteln#/media/Datei:Kraftwerk_Datteln_IV_Neubau.JPG https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraftwerk_Datteln#/media/Datei... Coal gave us such nice installations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahedron_in_Bottrop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahedron_in_Bottrop Pretty shiny, isn't it?
- bayesian_horse 3y ago
  Finland is a small country with a small population. It is futile to compare small countries with large countries. Small countries are much more likely to get lucky in certain regards, for example with a selection of suitable storage sites nobody lives close to. Or with a political climate that is amenable to such things. Also nuclear power was seen as an advantage because Russia is right next door. Finland is just in a much different position than Germany. We had a nuclear storage site picked out long ago. Then it turned out it wasn't suitable. That's at least as much bad luck as "lack of foresight" or anything else. Finland didn't have that problem. If their storage site turned out to be unsuitable after decades of preparation, maybe they wouldn't continue with nuclear power either. Last: You accuse others of propaganda but use a phrase like "in bed with the Kremlin" and spout conspiracy theories. You don't understand German politics. Mistakes were made. Presuming malice is convenient and lazy.
- Mashimo 3y ago
  > Because the Finns are pragmatic while the Germans are just idiotically idealistic and will protest against any change, even if it's for the greater good. Exactly, which why nuclear is not the best option for Germany.