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> but did not investigate the sexual assault charges against the coffee spillee. Did you make this part up?

bumby 3y ago
From the link in the article: "the University reported this allegation to the Title IX Office and the police, but the Title IX Office did not pursue the matter as “the criteria for moving forward with an investigation were not met.”" To be generous, they investigated it and found insufficient evidence. To a cynic, they superficially "investigated" it.
- prepend 3y ago
  This is a good clarification. To be more accurate, I should have said that they chose to spend significant resources investigating the coffee and did not spend resources investigating the sexual assault. In that the accusation of sexual assault didn’t result in any emails and potential degree withdrawals. Imagine if they had just referred the “assault” accusation to the police. I expect the student would not have killed herself.
  - dandare 3y ago
    > they chose to spend significant resources investigating the coffee and did not spend resources investigating the sexual assault. You made this up again, did you?
    - prepend 3y ago
      This is a curious statement and you’ve made it twice. Did you read the article that describes how the university acted toward one student and not another. Do you think they spent equal or similar resources on the two events? What do you think I’m making up?
      - bumby 3y ago
        I'm guessing here, but I think there issue may be: >"Imagine if they had just referred the “assault” accusation to the police." But the previous comment (and mentioned link) says: >"the University reported this allegation to the Title IX Office and the police" I.e., they did refer it to both the school administration and the police. It was apparently not found to be worth pursuing. For more context: "Mostofi also addressed the allegation that a football player sexually assaulted another player on the women’s soccer team. Mostofi wrote that the University reported this allegation to the Title IX Office and the police, but the Title IX Office did not pursue the matter as “the criteria for moving forward with an investigation were not met.”[1] To be generous to the OP, they may be wondering why you are implying they should continue to spend resources on something they already investigated and found without merit. We shouldn't be investigating as part of a dog-and-pony show. [1] https://stanforddaily.com/2022/11/25/parents-of-katie-meyer-file-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-stanford/ https://stanforddaily.com/2022/11/25/parents-of-katie-meyer-...
- dandare 3y ago
  In the universe where I live, a Uni will most likely throw the accused under a bus, won't respect his rights and will even withhold or disregard exonerating evidence. https://www.kennedy.senate.gov/public/press-releases?ID=26B54E83-0716-40B8-8F67-8C0A30FC7A07 https://www.kennedy.senate.gov/public/press-releases?ID=26B5...

From the link in the article: "the University reported this allegation to the Title IX Office and the police, but the Title IX Office did not pursue the matter as “the criteria for moving forward with an investigation were not met.”" To be generous, they investigated it and found insufficient evidence. To a cynic, they superficially "investigated" it.

prepend 3y ago
This is a good clarification. To be more accurate, I should have said that they chose to spend significant resources investigating the coffee and did not spend resources investigating the sexual assault. In that the accusation of sexual assault didn’t result in any emails and potential degree withdrawals. Imagine if they had just referred the “assault” accusation to the police. I expect the student would not have killed herself.
- dandare 3y ago
  > they chose to spend significant resources investigating the coffee and did not spend resources investigating the sexual assault. You made this up again, did you?
  - prepend 3y ago
    This is a curious statement and you’ve made it twice. Did you read the article that describes how the university acted toward one student and not another. Do you think they spent equal or similar resources on the two events? What do you think I’m making up?
    - bumby 3y ago
      I'm guessing here, but I think there issue may be: >"Imagine if they had just referred the “assault” accusation to the police." But the previous comment (and mentioned link) says: >"the University reported this allegation to the Title IX Office and the police" I.e., they did refer it to both the school administration and the police. It was apparently not found to be worth pursuing. For more context: "Mostofi also addressed the allegation that a football player sexually assaulted another player on the women’s soccer team. Mostofi wrote that the University reported this allegation to the Title IX Office and the police, but the Title IX Office did not pursue the matter as “the criteria for moving forward with an investigation were not met.”[1] To be generous to the OP, they may be wondering why you are implying they should continue to spend resources on something they already investigated and found without merit. We shouldn't be investigating as part of a dog-and-pony show. [1] https://stanforddaily.com/2022/11/25/parents-of-katie-meyer-file-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-stanford/ https://stanforddaily.com/2022/11/25/parents-of-katie-meyer-...
dandare 3y ago
In the universe where I live, a Uni will most likely throw the accused under a bus, won't respect his rights and will even withhold or disregard exonerating evidence. https://www.kennedy.senate.gov/public/press-releases?ID=26B54E83-0716-40B8-8F67-8C0A30FC7A07 https://www.kennedy.senate.gov/public/press-releases?ID=26B5...