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My claim is just that they're not actually exceptional in how many products they cancel or how they cancel them. If the HN community realized that, then we'd ge
by jsnell 4y ago
My claim is just that they're not actually exceptional in how many products they cancel or how they cancel them. If the HN community realized that, then we'd get fewer low-quality submissions like this, and fewer low-quality comments in any Google article. That'd make HN a better place.
Which of the "products" on _this list_ was shut down badly, in comparison to what MS would do? Not products on some other list, but this list that's at the top of the front page.
Code Jam was not a product. Stadia refunded all purchases. Street View is still accessible from the Maps app, this is just removing some ancient standalone app that nobody had heard of. Currents and the wifi routers had long deprecation cycles. I bet nobody here knows anything about the wearable computing stuff or how it was shut down.
If these are all products that were reasonable to shut down, and were shut down reasonably well, then what's newsworthy about this?
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago> and were shut down reasonably well Nobody who developed for Stadia thinks this. And this is far from a HN view—it regularly comes up at conferences for financial types.
- jsnell 4y agoPeople who developed for Stadia mainly did so because Google paid them outrageous amounts of money for ports, not because users they were making a lot of money buying games. If there were no users buying games, shutting it down would not have had any meaningful impact on the developers. How do you think they should have done it instead? What would have changed for those developers when done your way?
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago> How do you think they should have done it instead? Launched it as a start-up with unfair access to Google's resources. There was no way for it to work under Google's aegis.
- jsnell 4y agoI mean the shutdown. Obviously it was not a well launched product, but that's what you get when you hire Phil Harrison.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago> it was not a well launched product I'm broadly criticizing Google's ability to launch and maintain products. Launching fucked products falls under this umbrella. The point is betting on Google with your own resources is a bad idea.
- jsnell 4y agoOk. When you replied to a message about whether the product shutdowns were handled well, quoted specifically the"were shut down reasonably well" text, and offered Stadia as a counter-example, I thought you were in fact claiming that Stadia was not shut down well. My apologies, I should have realized you were not actually replying to that point in any way and just making another generic "Google cancel everything lol" argument.