3 ms·

What a weird comment. You know nothing about BYD (you just read their Wikipedia and that's all you know) yet you're sure the article is wrong. But factually, BY

What a weird comment. You know nothing about BYD (you just read their Wikipedia and that's all you know) yet you're sure the article is wrong. But factually, BYD is the leading ev maker.

freediverx 4y ago
After visiting the BVD website, what’s remarkable to me is that they’re priced from $32-40k. From the photos at least, it looks like a $100k+ car, much more luxurious than a Tesla Model S. But then again, I’m probably just used to price gouging in the US.
- sdfghswe 4y ago
  OR making a car pretty isn't that costly? With some smooth curves and red paint I can make a car look like a Ferrari, but that's a lot cheaper than actually making a Ferrari. And maybe this is the real reason why American consumers are so easily price gouged? Because they look at a car and go "it's pretty, so it must be a $100k car". (Same for paying $1000 for a phone btw) Making things pretty is cheap.
jacquesm 4y ago
> But factually, BYD is the leading ev maker. Calling them the leading EV maker is disingenuous, they are not even close to Tesla (1.3M vehicles, all of them BEVs) and VW (570K BEVs for 2022) is very close to BYD in total number of BEV vehicles sold, the bulk of which are for the domestic market. And both Tesla and VW are not exactly sitting still. I've been following the vehicle industry closely for many years and I would rate Geely/Polestar way ahead of BYD in getting traction in Europe as a Chinese company making inroads here (though I missed them apparently already selling in Denmark). Polestars I see pretty much daily, BYD, for all their size I've yet to come across in the wild. If you compare by the fraction of BEVs sold in Europe then they are currently not even a bit player, though that of course can change. One thing BYD did wrong in my opinion is that they chose to use the same brand for their big utility vehicles (buses, for instance) and their personal cars. Their large vehicles, while cheaper than the competition have a pretty bad reputation here. https://pvmagazine.nl/helft-van-de-236-elektrische-byd-bussen-nog-niet-technisch-in-orde-toch-gaat-ebs-van-start-met-de-nieuwe-concessie/ https://pvmagazine.nl/helft-van-de-236-elektrische-byd-busse... And many other articles besides.
- taylodl 4y ago
  BYD's EV 2023 sales target matches Tesla's sales 2023 sales target - and that's with BYD having no plans to enter the North American market in 2023. Since BYD makes more vehicles than just EVs, their total unit sales for 2023 will be over double that of Tesla's.
- user_named 4y ago
  You rating Polestar ahead of BYD is.. Extremely uninteresting. Hacker News isn't about your opinion. BYD is the leading maker of evs and their business is much larger in scope than other manufacturers. They also supply batteries, chipsets to other makers.

What a weird comment. You know nothing about BYD (you just read their Wikipedia and that's all you know) yet you're sure the article is wrong. But factually, BYD is the leading ev maker.

freediverx 4y ago

After visiting the BVD website, what’s remarkable to me is that they’re priced from $32-40k. From the photos at least, it looks like a $100k+ car, much more luxurious than a Tesla Model S. But then again, I’m probably just used to price gouging in the US.

sdfghswe 4y ago
OR making a car pretty isn't that costly? With some smooth curves and red paint I can make a car look like a Ferrari, but that's a lot cheaper than actually making a Ferrari. And maybe this is the real reason why American consumers are so easily price gouged? Because they look at a car and go "it's pretty, so it must be a $100k car". (Same for paying $1000 for a phone btw) Making things pretty is cheap.

jacquesm 4y ago

> But factually, BYD is the leading ev maker. Calling them the leading EV maker is disingenuous, they are not even close to Tesla (1.3M vehicles, all of them BEVs) and VW (570K BEVs for 2022) is very close to BYD in total number of BEV vehicles sold, the bulk of which are for the domestic market. And both Tesla and VW are not exactly sitting still. I've been following the vehicle industry closely for many years and I would rate Geely/Polestar way ahead of BYD in getting traction in Europe as a Chinese company making inroads here (though I missed them apparently already selling in Denmark). Polestars I see pretty much daily, BYD, for all their size I've yet to come across in the wild. If you compare by the fraction of BEVs sold in Europe then they are currently not even a bit player, though that of course can change. One thing BYD did wrong in my opinion is that they chose to use the same brand for their big utility vehicles (buses, for instance) and their personal cars. Their large vehicles, while cheaper than the competition have a pretty bad reputation here. https://pvmagazine.nl/helft-van-de-236-elektrische-byd-bussen-nog-niet-technisch-in-orde-toch-gaat-ebs-van-start-met-de-nieuwe-concessie/ https://pvmagazine.nl/helft-van-de-236-elektrische-byd-busse... And many other articles besides.

taylodl 4y ago
BYD's EV 2023 sales target matches Tesla's sales 2023 sales target - and that's with BYD having no plans to enter the North American market in 2023. Since BYD makes more vehicles than just EVs, their total unit sales for 2023 will be over double that of Tesla's.
user_named 4y ago
You rating Polestar ahead of BYD is.. Extremely uninteresting. Hacker News isn't about your opinion. BYD is the leading maker of evs and their business is much larger in scope than other manufacturers. They also supply batteries, chipsets to other makers.