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They've alienated contributors, had toxic feedback to community patches and have in general done everything they can to become irrelevant. These days yt-dlp co

They've alienated contributors, had toxic feedback to community patches and have in general done everything they can to become irrelevant. These days yt-dlp covers my needs instead, and unlike youtube-dl, they the seem to be accepting patches, making yt-dlp work (and keep working) on more sites and services than youtube-dl does. There's no (technical) reason for anyone to rely on youtube-dl any longer.

noirscape 4y ago
To be precise, what seems to have gone wrong is that youtube-dl went down the "insane compatibility" road. The new maintainer has put demands in place to support python 2.6 and up, which is fucking bonkers. Nevermind the fact that 2.6 is even deader than 2.7 ever was (which was the version of python2 officially deprecated three years ago). A side effect of this is that the new maintainer also rejects any patches that introduce new dependencies (existing ones being used is fine though), which has killed support since nobody wants to reimplement certain things to work with a python version that is pretty much only used by one guy still running Windows XP (who began to whine on the issue tracker about being ignored even though XP hasn't even been enterprise supported by Microsoft since 2019 but I guess this one guy is a valuable user?) yt-dlp on the other hand follows the "reasonable" road of compatibility, which is "current python3 version + 5 minor versions going back" (which is also the standard used for deprecating things in the python stdlib and security patches). Much better and it seems to have healthier contributors as a result.
midoridensha 4y ago
>They've alienated contributors, had toxic feedback to community patches and have in general done everything they can to become irrelevant. This sounds a lot like what happened to XFree86 when X.org forked it. >There's no (technical) reason for anyone to rely on youtube-dl any longer. Yeah, I gave up on youtube-dl a while ago when I discovered yt-dlp. The latter actually works really, really well, while the former is broken. I'm not sure why anyone still bothers with youtube-dl, but then again there's still a few weirdos who won't give up on XFree86 after all these years, and a few other weirdos who still refuse to abandon OpenOffice.org.

noirscape 4y ago

To be precise, what seems to have gone wrong is that youtube-dl went down the "insane compatibility" road. The new maintainer has put demands in place to support python 2.6 and up, which is fucking bonkers. Nevermind the fact that 2.6 is even deader than 2.7 ever was (which was the version of python2 officially deprecated three years ago). A side effect of this is that the new maintainer also rejects any patches that introduce new dependencies (existing ones being used is fine though), which has killed support since nobody wants to reimplement certain things to work with a python version that is pretty much only used by one guy still running Windows XP (who began to whine on the issue tracker about being ignored even though XP hasn't even been enterprise supported by Microsoft since 2019 but I guess this one guy is a valuable user?) yt-dlp on the other hand follows the "reasonable" road of compatibility, which is "current python3 version + 5 minor versions going back" (which is also the standard used for deprecating things in the python stdlib and security patches). Much better and it seems to have healthier contributors as a result.

midoridensha 4y ago

>They've alienated contributors, had toxic feedback to community patches and have in general done everything they can to become irrelevant. This sounds a lot like what happened to XFree86 when X.org forked it. >There's no (technical) reason for anyone to rely on youtube-dl any longer. Yeah, I gave up on youtube-dl a while ago when I discovered yt-dlp. The latter actually works really, really well, while the former is broken. I'm not sure why anyone still bothers with youtube-dl, but then again there's still a few weirdos who won't give up on XFree86 after all these years, and a few other weirdos who still refuse to abandon OpenOffice.org.