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Ouch, not a good look when people lose almost complete faith in your hardware products. Every one I know of has been shut down at this point. Why would I buy a

Ouch, not a good look when people lose almost complete faith in your hardware products. Every one I know of has been shut down at this point. Why would I buy a Google Hardware ever? Especially considering how they treated the Onhub... Stadia Onhub Glass

manojlds 4y ago
Pixel is doing better than ever though.
- blibble 4y ago
  did they manage convince to samsung to fix the critical vulnerabilities that require you to turn off your mobile data yet? otherwise you can be pwned by a phone call https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2023/03/multiple-internet-to-baseband-remote-rce.html https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2023/03/multiple-inte... phones from mid 2022 seem like abandonware already
  - jve 4y ago
    Misinformation. > require you to turn off your mobile data yet Wifi calling and VoLTE is not mobile data. > phones from mid 2022 seem like abandonware already Samsung supports updates for multiple years. Mid 2022 gets you previous samsung model - S22, where S23 was released this year 2023.
    - blibble 4y ago
      sorry, when I said mobile data I actually meant "all cellular communications", which is far more broad for some reason Android allows carriers to hide the VoLTE and Wifi calling toggles in the UI meaning the only fix is to turn cellular connectivity off completely
  - coremoff 4y ago
    those bugs were fixed in early March https://source.android.com/docs/security/bulletin/pixel/2023-03-01 https://source.android.com/docs/security/bulletin/pixel/2023...
    - blibble 4y ago
      a few of them were (3) out of 18 or so you can see on the linked page on google's own bugtracker that they're still unfixed
  - izacus 4y ago
    What you wrote is full of disinformation and FUD. Please do better.
- Kuinox 4y ago
  Pixel still had recent major software issues (Crashing when calling emergencies, a year after the first reports), or ongoing issue, like massive battery drains in certain conditions. I bought a Pixel 6, I don't think I'll buy another Pixel again. The official pixel case got destroyed due to wear in not even a year (my own 3D printed case in TPU now lasted longer than google one). The official pixel case also caught some dust and scratched the glass of the back. The pixel without a case is so slippery it slip alone on any surface not perfectly flat.
  - kmlx 4y ago
    > The official pixel case got destroyed due to wear in not even a year welcome to the "official case" club. all my iphone cases get destroyed in max 6 months, with one lasting less than 3 months. during the course of an iphone (2 years) i go thru 5-6 "official" cases.
    - Ensorceled 4y ago
      I bought an Otterbox case that has lasted 2 years and is only just now starting to show some wear and rubber/plastic separation. My Apple case was a bit embarrassing to pull out in public after only 6 months.
    - deleted 4y ago
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- chpatrick 4y ago
  The Pixel 5a had a design flaw where the screen would die permanently if you dropped it from a couple of inches, even in a case.
- illiarian 4y ago
  Does it though? Especially in the context of Google, and Google Products? John Gruber summarised it correctly: https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/09/12/google-pixel-popularity https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/09/12/google-pixel-po... And Google's approach to Pixels reflects that: they make them greta, then they all but abandon them, then okay again, then...
  - muyuu 4y ago
    you can never put it past Google to just kill anything up to Google Search, but the Pixel is a success and it doesn't make sense to compare a high-end line of products on a per-unit basis to cheapo phones like TLCs for instance the most profitable watch companies in the world are Timex, Rolex and Omega, and they have a combined market share of a fraction of a percent and on a per-unit basis they don't sell, combined, a thousandth of the units Casio alone sells (by the way most smartwatches are sell at nearly no profit and Apple's watch business has been losing money for a while)
    - illiarian 4y ago
      > but the Pixel is a success and it doesn't make sense to compare a high-end line of products on a per-unit basis to cheapo phones Compare it to high end products then, and you'd still come up short. There's also the reason why I pointed out "in the context of Google, and Google products": it's a tiny product made at great effort and expense that Google clearly doesn't know what to do about (they haven't even supported their own phones for more than three years until recently).
      - muyuu 4y ago
        compare it to high-end lines and Google is #3 in some markets and #4 in others, which is unmitigated success companies don't get to #3 or #4 in some of the most lucrative sectors in the world and then just decide to close shop because they're not #1 or #2 there are a bunch of profitable companies that ONLY make money in Pixel's sector, are recognised brands and they are already behind the Pixel in market share it's essentially like being Rolex in the watch business (number 1 or 2 in profit depending on market) and just closing shop because Casio sells 1000x+ more watches
bierjunge 4y ago
Pixel phones seem to be an exception from that. Let's hope Google doesn't kill them too.

manojlds 4y ago

Pixel is doing better than ever though.

blibble 4y ago
did they manage convince to samsung to fix the critical vulnerabilities that require you to turn off your mobile data yet? otherwise you can be pwned by a phone call https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2023/03/multiple-internet-to-baseband-remote-rce.html https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2023/03/multiple-inte... phones from mid 2022 seem like abandonware already
- jve 4y ago
  Misinformation. > require you to turn off your mobile data yet Wifi calling and VoLTE is not mobile data. > phones from mid 2022 seem like abandonware already Samsung supports updates for multiple years. Mid 2022 gets you previous samsung model - S22, where S23 was released this year 2023.
  - blibble 4y ago
    sorry, when I said mobile data I actually meant "all cellular communications", which is far more broad for some reason Android allows carriers to hide the VoLTE and Wifi calling toggles in the UI meaning the only fix is to turn cellular connectivity off completely
- coremoff 4y ago
  those bugs were fixed in early March https://source.android.com/docs/security/bulletin/pixel/2023-03-01 https://source.android.com/docs/security/bulletin/pixel/2023...
  - blibble 4y ago
    a few of them were (3) out of 18 or so you can see on the linked page on google's own bugtracker that they're still unfixed
- izacus 4y ago
  What you wrote is full of disinformation and FUD. Please do better.
Kuinox 4y ago
Pixel still had recent major software issues (Crashing when calling emergencies, a year after the first reports), or ongoing issue, like massive battery drains in certain conditions. I bought a Pixel 6, I don't think I'll buy another Pixel again. The official pixel case got destroyed due to wear in not even a year (my own 3D printed case in TPU now lasted longer than google one). The official pixel case also caught some dust and scratched the glass of the back. The pixel without a case is so slippery it slip alone on any surface not perfectly flat.
- kmlx 4y ago
  > The official pixel case got destroyed due to wear in not even a year welcome to the "official case" club. all my iphone cases get destroyed in max 6 months, with one lasting less than 3 months. during the course of an iphone (2 years) i go thru 5-6 "official" cases.
  - Ensorceled 4y ago
    I bought an Otterbox case that has lasted 2 years and is only just now starting to show some wear and rubber/plastic separation. My Apple case was a bit embarrassing to pull out in public after only 6 months.
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chpatrick 4y ago
The Pixel 5a had a design flaw where the screen would die permanently if you dropped it from a couple of inches, even in a case.
illiarian 4y ago
Does it though? Especially in the context of Google, and Google Products? John Gruber summarised it correctly: https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/09/12/google-pixel-popularity https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/09/12/google-pixel-po... And Google's approach to Pixels reflects that: they make them greta, then they all but abandon them, then okay again, then...
- muyuu 4y ago
  you can never put it past Google to just kill anything up to Google Search, but the Pixel is a success and it doesn't make sense to compare a high-end line of products on a per-unit basis to cheapo phones like TLCs for instance the most profitable watch companies in the world are Timex, Rolex and Omega, and they have a combined market share of a fraction of a percent and on a per-unit basis they don't sell, combined, a thousandth of the units Casio alone sells (by the way most smartwatches are sell at nearly no profit and Apple's watch business has been losing money for a while)
  - illiarian 4y ago
    > but the Pixel is a success and it doesn't make sense to compare a high-end line of products on a per-unit basis to cheapo phones Compare it to high end products then, and you'd still come up short. There's also the reason why I pointed out "in the context of Google, and Google products": it's a tiny product made at great effort and expense that Google clearly doesn't know what to do about (they haven't even supported their own phones for more than three years until recently).
    - muyuu 4y ago
      compare it to high-end lines and Google is #3 in some markets and #4 in others, which is unmitigated success companies don't get to #3 or #4 in some of the most lucrative sectors in the world and then just decide to close shop because they're not #1 or #2 there are a bunch of profitable companies that ONLY make money in Pixel's sector, are recognised brands and they are already behind the Pixel in market share it's essentially like being Rolex in the watch business (number 1 or 2 in profit depending on market) and just closing shop because Casio sells 1000x+ more watches

bierjunge 4y ago

Pixel phones seem to be an exception from that. Let's hope Google doesn't kill them too.