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Is Fuchsia on this list too, even unofficially so?

by cgio 4y ago

klabb3 4y ago
If I had a penny for every time I hear this.. yes they had big layoffs, but they also hired like crazy for a long time. Fuchsia is maybe 1/4 product and the rest is a long term infrastructure investment. If Google had lost interest they’d have no problem shutting it down by now, for instance stadia rose and fell in a shorter time span than all of fuchsia. I don’t know whether fuchsia will “make it”, heck a frustrated enough SvP can probably kill it if they really wanted to. However, fuchsia never lived in the same world as the rest of Google, or even the platform & ecosystems org (Android & ChromeOS), not really. Nobody ever expected a new OS and kernel to be a mainstream success in single digit years. It’s an insane project to take on, and ironically that insanity keeps a lot of the short term opportunists away, specifically the kind that leaves a crater after them when they leave..
- criddell 4y ago
  > If Google had lost interest they’d have no problem shutting it down by now It does feel like they’ve lost a lot of interest in Android. It’s too big for Google to just close, but I could see them selling it. If that happens, hopefully it’s to a Microsoft but chances are they will screw us all and sell it to Oracle or Xiaomi. But there are a lot of things that will die before Android or Fuschia. Here’s a list of 270 Google projects (past and present)[1]. I learned about Google Sunroof through this list (rooftop solar calculator) and it’s pretty neat. [1]: https://maheshone.com/google-products-and-services/ https://maheshone.com/google-products-and-services/
  - jzb 4y ago
    One hopes the Google/Oracle relationship is such that Google would sell Android to any company except Oracle.
    - criddell 4y ago
      The last thing Google wants is a shareholder lawsuit if they sell it at a discount to somebody else.
  - illiarian 4y ago
    > but I could see them selling it. IMO they are aiming to replace Android with Fuchsia. Because they have full control of Fuchsia, and so-so control of Android. They don't need to sell Android. They can just let it die on its own in AOSP which is already nonviable without Google's services.
    - rippercushions 4y ago
      The massive Chinese Android ecosystem operates entirely without Google services.
  - kmlx 4y ago
    > hopefully it’s to a Microsoft as long as it's not Microsoft itself of course.
dmm 4y ago
I wish! Android's refusal to implement stateful DHCPv6 is a noble position that Fuchsia cowardly surrendered. https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/36949085 https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/36949085

Is Fuchsia on this list too, even unofficially so?

by cgio 4y ago

Is Fuchsia on this list too, even unofficially so?

If I had a penny for every time I hear this.. yes they had big layoffs, but they also hired like crazy for a long time. Fuchsia is maybe 1/4 product and the rest is a long term infrastructure investment. If Google had lost interest they’d have no problem shutting it down by now, for instance stadia rose and fell in a shorter time span than all of fuchsia. I don’t know whether fuchsia will “make it”, heck a frustrated enough SvP can probably kill it if they really wanted to. However, fuchsia never lived in the same world as the rest of Google, or even the platform & ecosystems org (Android & ChromeOS), not really. Nobody ever expected a new OS and kernel to be a mainstream success in single digit years. It’s an insane project to take on, and ironically that insanity keeps a lot of the short term opportunists away, specifically the kind that leaves a crater after them when they leave..

criddell 4y ago
> If Google had lost interest they’d have no problem shutting it down by now It does feel like they’ve lost a lot of interest in Android. It’s too big for Google to just close, but I could see them selling it. If that happens, hopefully it’s to a Microsoft but chances are they will screw us all and sell it to Oracle or Xiaomi. But there are a lot of things that will die before Android or Fuschia. Here’s a list of 270 Google projects (past and present)[1]. I learned about Google Sunroof through this list (rooftop solar calculator) and it’s pretty neat. [1]: https://maheshone.com/google-products-and-services/ https://maheshone.com/google-products-and-services/
- jzb 4y ago
  One hopes the Google/Oracle relationship is such that Google would sell Android to any company except Oracle.
  - criddell 4y ago
    The last thing Google wants is a shareholder lawsuit if they sell it at a discount to somebody else.
- illiarian 4y ago
  > but I could see them selling it. IMO they are aiming to replace Android with Fuchsia. Because they have full control of Fuchsia, and so-so control of Android. They don't need to sell Android. They can just let it die on its own in AOSP which is already nonviable without Google's services.
  - rippercushions 4y ago
    The massive Chinese Android ecosystem operates entirely without Google services.
- kmlx 4y ago
  > hopefully it’s to a Microsoft as long as it's not Microsoft itself of course.

dmm 4y ago

I wish! Android's refusal to implement stateful DHCPv6 is a noble position that Fuchsia cowardly surrendered. https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/36949085 https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/36949085