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You seem to enjoy the prospect of the payoff but the journey is hard. You need to enjoy the journey in order not to get distracted.

by boris 18y ago

Prrometheus 18y ago
Interesting. Any ideas for how to enjoy the journey more instead of seeking constant little payoffs?
- boris 18y ago
  I try to do things that I enjoy. Something that I would do (or would like to do) even if it didn't have any monetary payoff. If you can find a project that you would do, rather than read the net, and it happens to pay the bills then here is your journey. This is, of course, quite a bit simplified. In any non-trivial venture there will be a significant number of things that need to be done and that you don't particularly enjoy doing. But if the greater part is fun then it is easier to sometimes buckle down and get through the mundane parts. I guess it also largely depends on the personality. I, for example, hate having to do something quickly, without fully understanding the area, and moving on. On the other hand, if I have a chance to spend time and get exhaustive knowledge about something then I genuinely enjoy working on it even if on the outset it seemed unattractive (think sales, marketing, writing, etc., vs hacking some interesting piece of software).
- jd 18y ago
  It's OK to expect little payoffs constantly. Split up tasks in small chunks and tick them off as you complete them. Large tasks seem daunting. Small tasks are just that "tasks". Stuff you do without really worrying about it. Using a TODO lists when you already know roughly what you have to do can help enormously. The mundane act of ticking off a box next to a small task is enough motivation to get started on the next task. Especially in the morning it can be tempting to "catch up" with all the HN posts, but if you go through your TODO list and see that you have to "fix link on page X" it's really easy to just do it. Only takes a minute. You know what you have to do, and it doesn't "feel" like work. And when you've started the next task automatically follows. You can even put off simple tasks so you can do them whenever you're not feeling motivated, just to help you get started.
  - evilneanderthal 18y ago
    this fits nicely with test-driven development. writing a unit test is a small task completion, as is passing it in a non-brain-dead manner.
    - aaronblohowiak 18y ago
      I think that this aspect is actually the unsung hero of TDD.. it provides immediate consistent salient feedback delivered frequently, which is pretty much textbook key to accommodating ADHD.
- zavulon 18y ago
  I recommend a book by George Leonard called "Mastery: The Keys to Success and Long-Term Fulfillment". It talks about this topic... very fascinating and useful read (also quite short) http://www.amazon.com/Mastery-Keys-Success-Long-Term-Fulfillment/dp/0452267560/ http://www.amazon.com/Mastery-Keys-Success-Long-Term-Fulfill...
  - electromagnetic 18y ago
    He wants to stop reading things and start working and you're recommending a book, cruel bastard :p

You seem to enjoy the prospect of the payoff but the journey is hard. You need to enjoy the journey in order not to get distracted.

by boris 18y ago

You seem to enjoy the prospect of the payoff but the journey is hard. You need to enjoy the journey in order not to get distracted.

Prrometheus 18y ago

Interesting. Any ideas for how to enjoy the journey more instead of seeking constant little payoffs?

boris 18y ago
I try to do things that I enjoy. Something that I would do (or would like to do) even if it didn't have any monetary payoff. If you can find a project that you would do, rather than read the net, and it happens to pay the bills then here is your journey. This is, of course, quite a bit simplified. In any non-trivial venture there will be a significant number of things that need to be done and that you don't particularly enjoy doing. But if the greater part is fun then it is easier to sometimes buckle down and get through the mundane parts. I guess it also largely depends on the personality. I, for example, hate having to do something quickly, without fully understanding the area, and moving on. On the other hand, if I have a chance to spend time and get exhaustive knowledge about something then I genuinely enjoy working on it even if on the outset it seemed unattractive (think sales, marketing, writing, etc., vs hacking some interesting piece of software).
jd 18y ago
It's OK to expect little payoffs constantly. Split up tasks in small chunks and tick them off as you complete them. Large tasks seem daunting. Small tasks are just that "tasks". Stuff you do without really worrying about it. Using a TODO lists when you already know roughly what you have to do can help enormously. The mundane act of ticking off a box next to a small task is enough motivation to get started on the next task. Especially in the morning it can be tempting to "catch up" with all the HN posts, but if you go through your TODO list and see that you have to "fix link on page X" it's really easy to just do it. Only takes a minute. You know what you have to do, and it doesn't "feel" like work. And when you've started the next task automatically follows. You can even put off simple tasks so you can do them whenever you're not feeling motivated, just to help you get started.
- evilneanderthal 18y ago
  this fits nicely with test-driven development. writing a unit test is a small task completion, as is passing it in a non-brain-dead manner.
  - aaronblohowiak 18y ago
    I think that this aspect is actually the unsung hero of TDD.. it provides immediate consistent salient feedback delivered frequently, which is pretty much textbook key to accommodating ADHD.
zavulon 18y ago
I recommend a book by George Leonard called "Mastery: The Keys to Success and Long-Term Fulfillment". It talks about this topic... very fascinating and useful read (also quite short) http://www.amazon.com/Mastery-Keys-Success-Long-Term-Fulfillment/dp/0452267560/ http://www.amazon.com/Mastery-Keys-Success-Long-Term-Fulfill...
- electromagnetic 18y ago
  He wants to stop reading things and start working and you're recommending a book, cruel bastard :p