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>I'm German and I can code. Me, too. But software engineering is definitely not on par in Germany with other important branches, e.g. car manufactoring. Ther

>I'm German and I can code. Me, too. But software engineering is definitely not on par in Germany with other important branches, e.g. car manufactoring. There are huge successful non-IT companies that fail to transform into digital age. They have problems to hire good software engineers. In the home computer era in the 80s I saw a lot of people in Europe produce nice software. But somehow we did not make the jump into PC-era.

awesomeMilou 4y ago
Software Engineering is definitely on par with what you'd expect from a standard, non-tech Fortune 500 company in the US or elsewhere. We just don't have any tech startups, because our investment culture is fundamentally different than that from the US. We lack both the public, private and military financing that would allow a culture like it exists in the valley. That goes not only for Germany but Europe as a whole. Though I don't consider this to be a bad thing. There's a considerable amount of startups advertising their seed funding on here with products that I don't think would have a market fit outside the valley right now.
- tauchunfall 4y ago
  We don't have many tech startups, but also don't have many big tech companies. Like there is SAP, and then... Wirecard maybe. Oh no, that's the one that faked IT greatness. I guess, there are Siemens and Bosch. Then, IT talents: In 2020 Informatik (computer science) made it to the second-most studied university discipline after BWL (business admistration). Which is very interesting since it was not even TOP 10 for decades and still is a male-dominated field. Tradionally Germany has great apprenticeships, so there are multiple vocational schools you can go to learn something in IT, backed by IHK (chamber of commerce and industry). We'll need them, because we somehow fail to attract many foreign talents, compared to Switzerland.

awesomeMilou 4y ago

Software Engineering is definitely on par with what you'd expect from a standard, non-tech Fortune 500 company in the US or elsewhere. We just don't have any tech startups, because our investment culture is fundamentally different than that from the US. We lack both the public, private and military financing that would allow a culture like it exists in the valley. That goes not only for Germany but Europe as a whole. Though I don't consider this to be a bad thing. There's a considerable amount of startups advertising their seed funding on here with products that I don't think would have a market fit outside the valley right now.

tauchunfall 4y ago
We don't have many tech startups, but also don't have many big tech companies. Like there is SAP, and then... Wirecard maybe. Oh no, that's the one that faked IT greatness. I guess, there are Siemens and Bosch. Then, IT talents: In 2020 Informatik (computer science) made it to the second-most studied university discipline after BWL (business admistration). Which is very interesting since it was not even TOP 10 for decades and still is a male-dominated field. Tradionally Germany has great apprenticeships, so there are multiple vocational schools you can go to learn something in IT, backed by IHK (chamber of commerce and industry). We'll need them, because we somehow fail to attract many foreign talents, compared to Switzerland.