Yep definitely agree. I grew up in Phoenix and moved to the Bay Area after I graduated. I've come to absolutely adore the density (as paltry as it may be compar

Yep definitely agree. I grew up in Phoenix and moved to the Bay Area after I graduated. I've come to absolutely adore the density (as paltry as it may be compared to other places) and abhor the environment where I came from. I can finally walk, bike, or train to 99% of things I do day-to-day. I'd never ever move back to Phoenix, but likewise I don't see myself ever moving to, say, NYC. It goes too far in the other direction and is one of those concrete jungles you speak of. I really think cities like London and Amsterdam strike a great middleground. Density, but not at the cost of green space.