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People are really really weird about TikTok being a Chinese company when this is what it's like dealing with US companies not in the US. Oh no the Chinese gover

by Spivak 4y ago

People are really really weird about TikTok being a Chinese company when this is what it's like dealing with US companies not in the US. Oh no the Chinese government could access your data without you knowing? God would that be horrible, thank god we don't do that here hahaha. National Security Letter who? The US would also never use the reach of our private companies to wage information warfare. Literally if you just s/Tiktok/Facebook this article could be read verbatim about the US. We have the exact same laws and our companies do the same shady shit. On HN I hope I don't have to list the scandals from US tech companies. It's really hard to read this push as anything other than the new red scare.

snehk 4y ago
As someone not from the US, it's a bit amusing to see Americans cry about something they do on a daily basis, scrambling to find some excuse as to why it's okay when they do it but not okay when others do it. Their biggest fear is literally that China would do what they are already doing. Bonus points for mentioning human rights or something as if the US were a country that could lecture others on human rights. The hypocrisy is stunning.
herbst 4y ago
This. It's kinda awkward that everyday a new comment section gets filled with anti Chinese propaganda even thought most here on HN should definitely know better. It's time we talk about privacy. However this is completely the wrong way to do so.
- Spivak 4y ago
  Not even 24 hours later https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35556193 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35556193 > The problem is not technical, FB could write anything, the security of the system is as weak as its weakest link. The problem here is way way behind the computer. https://xkcd.com/538/ https://xkcd.com/538/ The weakest link here, is that Facebook has to respect US laws. They don't have a choice there. So, if US law permits or requests in some way interception of communications, or that operators have to report certain activities, then your right to secrecy is done.

by Spivak 4y ago

snehk 4y ago

As someone not from the US, it's a bit amusing to see Americans cry about something they do on a daily basis, scrambling to find some excuse as to why it's okay when they do it but not okay when others do it. Their biggest fear is literally that China would do what they are already doing. Bonus points for mentioning human rights or something as if the US were a country that could lecture others on human rights. The hypocrisy is stunning.

herbst 4y ago

This. It's kinda awkward that everyday a new comment section gets filled with anti Chinese propaganda even thought most here on HN should definitely know better. It's time we talk about privacy. However this is completely the wrong way to do so.

Spivak 4y ago
Not even 24 hours later https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35556193 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35556193 > The problem is not technical, FB could write anything, the security of the system is as weak as its weakest link. The problem here is way way behind the computer. https://xkcd.com/538/ https://xkcd.com/538/ The weakest link here, is that Facebook has to respect US laws. They don't have a choice there. So, if US law permits or requests in some way interception of communications, or that operators have to report certain activities, then your right to secrecy is done.