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> but not only is this unavoidable, it’s written in Chinese law. Do we not talk about how Australia requires that its citizens to do the same? https://www.wir

> but not only is this unavoidable, it’s written in Chinese law. Do we not talk about how Australia requires that its citizens to do the same? https://www.wired.com/story/australia-encryption-law-global-impact/ https://www.wired.com/story/australia-encryption-law-global-... Again, what makes China special in this arena? And why must millions of tiny (1-10 person) businesses lose their primary niche-finding advertising system to do it? And why must over 100 million people lose their most effective news source and delivery mechanism for it?

tuxpenguine 4y ago
Because in Australia there is rule of law. In China it is rule by law.
- t-writescode 4y ago
  That sounds like something that would look great on a t-shirt but is ultimately meaningless.
  - tuxpenguine 4y ago
    https://vannormanlaw.com/rule-law-vs-rule-law/ https://vannormanlaw.com/rule-law-vs-rule-law/
    - t-writescode 4y ago
      Scanning the internet for examples of China being a rule-by-law country consistently presents opinion pieces, or opinion pieces by other names that seem little more than propaganda. China has many, many problems; but "rule by law" doesn't look very different from numerous places that would absolutely claim to be "rule of law"; and so, to me, it remains a propagandized term with a meaning that's used primarily against sets of rules and rulers we don't like.
      - tuxpenguine 4y ago
        I see your point, I am sorry to hear that you feel this way, you feelings are valid. As someone who moved from China to the US, I feel I can appreciate the difference a lot more, on a personal level.
        raxxorraxor 4y ago
        Then perhaps appreciating the freedom supplied by not putting everything under government control is worth looking into.
- cute_boi 4y ago
  at the end both are same... Don't believe me look at those leaks.
- DoItToMe81 4y ago
  That's simply a buzzword that does not reflect reality. Australia has clauses all throughout its federal law restricting due process, especially for "terrorism" accusations. There are also no Miranda rights for crimes that can carry a penalty of more than five years.
- jostiniane 4y ago
  my authoritarian government is better than yours

tuxpenguine 4y ago

Because in Australia there is rule of law. In China it is rule by law.

t-writescode 4y ago
That sounds like something that would look great on a t-shirt but is ultimately meaningless.
- tuxpenguine 4y ago
  https://vannormanlaw.com/rule-law-vs-rule-law/ https://vannormanlaw.com/rule-law-vs-rule-law/
  - t-writescode 4y ago
    Scanning the internet for examples of China being a rule-by-law country consistently presents opinion pieces, or opinion pieces by other names that seem little more than propaganda. China has many, many problems; but "rule by law" doesn't look very different from numerous places that would absolutely claim to be "rule of law"; and so, to me, it remains a propagandized term with a meaning that's used primarily against sets of rules and rulers we don't like.
    - tuxpenguine 4y ago
      I see your point, I am sorry to hear that you feel this way, you feelings are valid. As someone who moved from China to the US, I feel I can appreciate the difference a lot more, on a personal level.
      - raxxorraxor 4y ago
        Then perhaps appreciating the freedom supplied by not putting everything under government control is worth looking into.
cute_boi 4y ago
at the end both are same... Don't believe me look at those leaks.
DoItToMe81 4y ago
That's simply a buzzword that does not reflect reality. Australia has clauses all throughout its federal law restricting due process, especially for "terrorism" accusations. There are also no Miranda rights for crimes that can carry a penalty of more than five years.
jostiniane 4y ago
my authoritarian government is better than yours