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> Why is the conversation not about jailing a landlord who evicts someone in mental health crisis? What a commie answer, to blame the person who has actually s

> Why is the conversation not about jailing a landlord who evicts someone in mental health crisis? What a commie answer, to blame the person who has actually supplied something because they can't keep providing forever. Why not jail the neighbors, who obviously refused to start a go-fund-me to pay for the apartment? Why not jail facebook employees for not making it mandatory to view said go-fund-me to pay for the apartment? Why not jail the elementary school teacher who took a job in a different town many years ago, thus depriving the poor victim of a different path in life. Why not simply jail anyone with more than the homeless person, to achieve full societal equity?

giraffe_lady 4y ago
I didn't propose jailing anyone, I am an abolitionist. I asked why the conversation, already about jailing someone, is only about jailing that person. The other ones you pose are also reasonable questions with less clear answers but revealing to think about in a way. Except the teacher I just don't get that. Calling me a commie is silly. I am a socialist come on. Y'all act like god revealed capitalism as his chosen economic system in 1991.
- LawTalkingGuy 4y ago
  > Calling me a commie is silly. I am a socialist come on. :D Honest question though if you're serious, is socialism just a temporary goal on the way to communism or is it a worthwhile final goal on its own? > I didn't propose jailing anyone, I am an abolitionist. More questions. Like, as a libertarian sort of thing, or a anarcho-utopian? In a society that has the concept of property? What would the society do, or expect a citizen to do, when someone was taking their food, or harassing them, etc? > why the conversation, already about jailing someone, is only about jailing that person Because the word tenant implies that they need to pay ongoing rent, and evictions are generally for failing to do so. Jail may be overboard in this situation (?) but applying sanctions to a person unwilling to return your property or leave your rental unit seems required or nobody would rent anything and all potential renters would suffer. There doesn't seem to be any reason to punish the landlord, first because it's morally wrong to punish someone without a 'crime', and second because it wouldn't provide any class benefit to anyone either. > Y'all act like god revealed capitalism as his chosen economic system in 1991. No, we measure from when St Reagan personally tore down the wall in 1987.

giraffe_lady 4y ago

I didn't propose jailing anyone, I am an abolitionist. I asked why the conversation, already about jailing someone, is only about jailing that person. The other ones you pose are also reasonable questions with less clear answers but revealing to think about in a way. Except the teacher I just don't get that. Calling me a commie is silly. I am a socialist come on. Y'all act like god revealed capitalism as his chosen economic system in 1991.

LawTalkingGuy 4y ago
> Calling me a commie is silly. I am a socialist come on. :D Honest question though if you're serious, is socialism just a temporary goal on the way to communism or is it a worthwhile final goal on its own? > I didn't propose jailing anyone, I am an abolitionist. More questions. Like, as a libertarian sort of thing, or a anarcho-utopian? In a society that has the concept of property? What would the society do, or expect a citizen to do, when someone was taking their food, or harassing them, etc? > why the conversation, already about jailing someone, is only about jailing that person Because the word tenant implies that they need to pay ongoing rent, and evictions are generally for failing to do so. Jail may be overboard in this situation (?) but applying sanctions to a person unwilling to return your property or leave your rental unit seems required or nobody would rent anything and all potential renters would suffer. There doesn't seem to be any reason to punish the landlord, first because it's morally wrong to punish someone without a 'crime', and second because it wouldn't provide any class benefit to anyone either. > Y'all act like god revealed capitalism as his chosen economic system in 1991. No, we measure from when St Reagan personally tore down the wall in 1987.