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No, it is NOT ok to be a communist. Communists and white nationalists are morally equivalent, though communism to date has a much higher body count than white n
by throw__away7391 4y ago
No, it is NOT ok to be a communist. Communists and white nationalists are morally equivalent, though communism to date has a much higher body count than white nationalism and their methods of execution and torture have on balance been more savage and more brutal.
- anthk 4y agoWe stopped white Nationalisms. If not, Communism's death toll would be a joke in comparison.
- Amezarak 4y agoThis post really illustrates the expansion of terms into meaninglessness. One presumes they're referring to the Allies (who themselves would now be considered extremely racist) stopping the Nazis, who allied with the Japanese and were targeting/killing mostly Jewish and Slavic peoples. The Nazis were specifically pro-German/Aryan and whatever they thought that meant ethnically. They did not see things in today's racial terms. It's absurd to describe them as "white nationalists" because they didn't think that being "white" was good. There were a lot of "bad" "white" people in their worldview. It also seems unlikely that the Nazis would have succeeded in killing many more millions of people than they did without Allied intervention, but at least this requires some unprovable speculation about alternative histories. Either way, can we stop fighting battles almost a century old? Today's bad guys are not yesterday's and yesterday's good guys are not today's good guys.
- anthk 4y agoUnprobable speculation? Ever heard of the final solution? FFS...
- Amezarak 4y agoI would strongly recommend reading The Third Reich trilogy by Richard J. Evans. Most people have a rather propagandistic view of the war and this series is easily accessible for the layman and does a really good job at laying out what happened and when and why.
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- gruez 4y agoCan you provide a summary for people who don't want to read 3 books?
- micromacrofoot 4y agothis is a baffling comment! white nationalists still very often hate jewish people! they are not dramatically different and still have a tendency to idolize nazis!
- croes 4y agoThe communist body count is largely based on incapacity that led to famine. The white nationalist made genocide an efficient industrial process. Just look how little time they needed to nearly eradicate the Jews.
- YarickR2 4y agoWell, by this logic it's way less ok to be capitalist and imperialist
- micromacrofoot 4y agoon that grounds it’s also not ok to be a capitalist… maybe I’m not familiar enough with communism but I didn’t think it inherently included genocide like white nationalism tends to?
- luckylion 4y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge A money quote for those who can't be bothered to read: Ultimately, the Cambodian genocide led to the deaths of 1.5 to 2 million people, around 25% of Cambodia's population. And people still want to be communists. Ideology is strange.
- micromacrofoot 4y agoIs that not due to the specific regime regardless of the political ideology? Communism doesn't inherently include brutal totalitarian autocrats? we've certainly seen them under other systems as well.
- luckylion 4y ago> Communism doesn't inherently include brutal totalitarian autocrats? It's a "smoking causes cancer" situation. Just because other things also cause cancer doesn't mean that smoking doesn't. Read up on the history, look at each communist country, see what they become. Smoking causes cancer. There's just still a bunch of communists who deny it because it's uncomfortable. Just like Neo-Nazis are denying the holocaust. If they were proud of it, they wouldn't deny it. They're not, but they'd like to keep the rest of their worldview intact and pretend that it didn't happen. Don't be like that, look at the history.
- micromacrofoot 4y agoFair enough, I can agree that communism has a bad track record. Though if I were to go back to my original point there's certainly an inherent violence in white nationalism that is unacceptable and being tolerant of this is paradoxical. There are countries that while not communist, successfully enact a blend of socialism and capitalism without any significant violence. I don't think white nationalism has any sort of validly applicable aspects that can be stretched to that effect.