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> There has been a very strange desire by some to get direct access to kids and to influence them without parental approval or supervision. I’ve noticed this a

by lumb63 4y ago

> There has been a very strange desire by some to get direct access to kids and to influence them without parental approval or supervision. I’ve noticed this as well. One recent instance is opposition to the proposed Parents Bill of Rights Act in the US, which would require elementary schools to obtain parental consent before a minor child’s gender pronouns or preferred name is changed. That seems like a pretty reasonable rule to me.

johnny22 4y ago
so i'd have to ask my parents to have my teacher call me Johnny instead of John? that doesn't sound great to me.
yamtaddle 4y ago
By all means, give teachers even more eggshells to carefully walk on, with consequences for screwing it up (if no consequences, what's the point of having the law at all?) while they're seeing inflation-adjusted pay fall fast, benefits (healthcare especially) not-so-gradually eroding, and we already have alarmingly-low enrollment in education programs. Go ahead and speed up the collapse of public education that's already in progress. Rather than, you know, letting them just behave like human beings possessing judgement and at least a little common-sense, which I'd bet has been working out entirely fine in damn near all cases, as far as it relates to this topic. If you want to find an example or five of somethings stupid or bad happening in a country of 330+ million, you can, but is this an actual widespread problem worth legislating, that individual schools and districts aren't manage to handle just fine on their own, overall? I doubt it.
bee_rider 4y ago
So what, require everybody to get their parents to come in and state their gender in kindergarten? Seems annoying. Or just default to they/them? Possible I guess but awkward. Or just let the teachers assign a gender to start? This will be fun! Can they ask the kids first or do they have to pick without consultation?

by lumb63 4y ago

johnny22 4y ago

so i'd have to ask my parents to have my teacher call me Johnny instead of John? that doesn't sound great to me.

yamtaddle 4y ago

By all means, give teachers even more eggshells to carefully walk on, with consequences for screwing it up (if no consequences, what's the point of having the law at all?) while they're seeing inflation-adjusted pay fall fast, benefits (healthcare especially) not-so-gradually eroding, and we already have alarmingly-low enrollment in education programs. Go ahead and speed up the collapse of public education that's already in progress. Rather than, you know, letting them just behave like human beings possessing judgement and at least a little common-sense, which I'd bet has been working out entirely fine in damn near all cases, as far as it relates to this topic. If you want to find an example or five of somethings stupid or bad happening in a country of 330+ million, you can, but is this an actual widespread problem worth legislating, that individual schools and districts aren't manage to handle just fine on their own, overall? I doubt it.

bee_rider 4y ago

So what, require everybody to get their parents to come in and state their gender in kindergarten? Seems annoying. Or just default to they/them? Possible I guess but awkward. Or just let the teachers assign a gender to start? This will be fun! Can they ask the kids first or do they have to pick without consultation?