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That sounds like an unfalsifiable claim. Do you have any evidence supporting it, or are you "just asking questions"? Edit: I deserve to have been downvoted, I
by nawgz 4y ago
That sounds like an unfalsifiable claim. Do you have any evidence supporting it, or are you "just asking questions"?
Edit: I deserve to have been downvoted, I have misinterpreted the context of "right" in the parent post and they have educated me with articles in turn
- azemetre 4y agoI mean struggle sessions were a real thing. [1] Suppose it's hard to say that any particular person was forced into a struggle session for saying that killing sparrows was wrong, but they were absolutely a thing and mostly used to quell dissent and spread Maoism. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struggle_session
- revelio 4y agoHistory books? The evidence is abundant, it's weird that this is even in dispute. Not sure what the Chinese term was but the Soviets used the word "bourgeoisie" or sometimes "kulaks" where today we would say right wing/capitalists, and they used пропаганда (propaganda) for what today we would call misinformation. And counter-revolutionaries were just counter-revolutionaries, no change there. The only bit about hintymad's claim that's false is that the people who publicly doubted Mao weren't labelled as things. They were just executed.
- ch4s3 4y agoYou're in luck, there's a whole wikipedia page covering the named offenses[1] of the cultural revolution. Rightist, reactionary, and class-enemy seem to have been common based on my reading. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_offences_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_offences_in_China
- hintymad 4y ago> Not sure what the Chinese term was but the Soviets used the word "bourgeoisie" or sometimes "kulaks" Yup, Chinese did use "bourgeoisie" too. It's called Xiaozi （小资）, though the connotation of the word today has drastically changed. Before and during the Culture Revolution, the word referred to those who didn't have complete conviction in the Revolution and were attracted to the "corrupted life style" of the western world. However, bourgeoisies were educable. If they refused the education, whatever that means, they would turn into the right.
- hintymad 4y agoOh my god, are you serious? Or I just naively assumed that the dark history of China back in the 50s and 60s are well known? The Great Leap Forward. The Anti-Right Campaign (BTW, “right” in Marxism terms are akin to the left in the western world). The Four Cleansing Movement. The Campaign to Eliminate the Four Pests… Millions of people died of hunger and millions more lost their civil rights for decades! People who questioned whether an acre could produce more than 5000KG of rice got persecuted. Just do the Google search on the terms.
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- hintymad 4y agoIn addition, do check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Zhixin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Zhixin, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin_Zhao https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin_Zhao, and https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/politics-guilt-09282016121224.html https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/politics-guilt-092820.... Mind you, the "crimes" these people "committed" were deemed serious by the progressives during those times. Yeah, so much for the left wanting to censor information.
- nawgz 4y agoThanks, I did not know it was literally called the "Anti-Rightist" campaign and I see I misunderstood the comment and implications you originally made. Sorry for that.
- rdtsc 4y agoEven asking questions is not a bad way to keep the conversion going. Not every sentence has to be proven logically and supported by extensive research and references.