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NPR is not nor has it ever been state-affiliated media in any reasonable sense of the word. Is it a full stop, bald-face lie.
by d23 3y ago
NPR is not nor has it ever been state-affiliated media in any reasonable sense of the word. Is it a full stop, bald-face lie.
- skrowl 3y agoNPR was, quite-literally created by an act of the United States congress. It receives DIRECT funding from the United States government. Twitter was generous in changing the label from "State-affiliated" media (given that it was literally created by the US Government) to "Government-funded media". There is no possible argument against the "Government-funded media" label that makes sense. They're government funded. NPR's parent company, Corporation for Public Broadcasting, is also government funded. Neither of these funding points are debatable (aka Full stop).
- lamontcg 3y agoCorporations and institutions/foundations make up more than half of NPR's funding. And that exceeds the pledge drive funding, which collectively vastly exceeds the government funds they receive. When NPR runs their "ADM Supermarket to the World" spots, that is telling you who is really funding them and who to worry about exerting editorial control.
- MichaelZuo 3y agoAny entity created by an Act of Congress is by definition affiliated with the federal government.
- yufeng66 3y agoHudson's bay company is incorporated by English Royal charter in 1670. By definition it is a department store affiliated with the English king :)
- MichaelZuo 3y agoWith the Crown yes, not a particular individual. In fact there are still some families in Canada with noble titles, hearldry, etc., who are indeed affiliated with the Crown.
- just-ok 3y agoHas NPR evolved since its inception? Sure. But "nor has it ever been" is... misleading at best: > Funding for NPR comes from [...other sources...] and annual grants from the publicly-funded Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Hmm, let's look into said Corporation: > On February 26, 1970, the CPB formed National Public Radio (NPR) > The CPB's annual budget is composed almost entirely of an annual appropriation from Congress plus interest on those funds. > The CPB is governed by a nine-member board of directors selected by the president of the United States and confirmed by the Senate I mean... If this wasn't "state-affiliated media" at its inception, I'm not entirely sure what is.
- sigmar 3y agoNot sure if you realize that "State-affiliated" has a very different meaning than "received government funds"
- just-ok 3y agoOf course, but NPR's origins are from a government-controlled organization.
- jprd 3y agoFair enough, but without doing linguistic gymnastics, "State-affiliated" should also be seen by any reasonably educated adult to indicate "State-edited". "State-funded" is an appropriate tag! I'd recommend this, actually. NPR show Frontline is a great place to start this education. Attempting to place NPR and that kind of sentiment in the same conversation as anything other than a great example of how Gov't funds can be provided without such _control_ is disingenuous at best. NPR != RT Musk is in way over his head.
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- thomastjeffery 3y agoPeople can agree with each other politically without consulting with each other.
- AlbertCory 3y agoand yet the Twitter Files show they do, in fact, consult.
- detaro 3y agoHappen to have a link to relevant parts about NPR from them?
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- detaro 3y agoHow is "I'd not seen that part, details please" a delaying tactic? You'd really help your argument if you, you know, supported it instead of trying to divert with questions. Sorry that I don't take "The twitter files prove that the government controls NPR" at face value.
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- orblivion 3y agoI agree and wasn't fond of the "state-affiliated" label but they switched to "government funded" which I agree with.
- soerxpso 3y agoHow is receiving funding from someone not a form of affiliation with them?
- 93po 3y agoaffiliated: "closely associated with another typically in a dependent or subordinate position" "an organization that is officially connected with or controlled by another, usually larger, organization" dependent: "relying on another for support" (also uses of the words "need" and "requires") I would agree with parent comment - NPR is not directly, closely affiliated with the state. And isn't in a subordinate position with the state. It has about 12% of its funding from tax dollars, but I think it'd likely exists without that. I also agree with parent comment they are state funded, however, and anyone who had 12% of their income from a given source for free and no work would be biased and influenced to be friendly towards them. To suggest that the people who work at and run NPR are free from bias and influence is demonstrably not true, and so it also follows we can't assume they would approach their funding without bias.
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- codeddesign 3y agoBased on what criteria? NPR is specifically in the congressional budget by law..yes, we have a law to keep them funded by the US govt. Is the criteria money? coercion? backdoor-deals? bias? As per Twitter’s criteria, it’s money.
- detaro 3y agoIs it? "State-affiliated media is defined as outlets where the state exercises control over editorial content through financial resources, direct or indirect political pressures, and/or control over production and distribution." Control/Coercion seem more important, especially since Twitter has a separate category for media with government funding. (cf https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/state-affiliated https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/state-affilia... for both)
- codeddesign 3y agoI was asking your criteria. Twitter: “Financial Resource” Considering we do have a law around funding NPR and the company would be impacted of that funding went away, personally I see it as appropriate. However, I also see it appropriate that Fox News and Washington Post get the same tag. (party political pressures)
- detaro 3y agoI was responding to the "As per Twitter’s criteria, it’s money." part. Fox and WP as state-affiliated seems weird to me: being close to a party line is not necessarily the same as state-affiliation. (Given we're talking a democracy and not a one-party state - I don't think you could make that distinction in e.g. China due to how interconnected it is there)
- codeddesign 3y agoParties absolutely have access to these outlets. We all have to be blind to think that if Biden request WP to write something positive, they wouldn’t? Same with Fox and Trump. Does the govt use influence to persuade news outlets? Of course they do. Any major news outlet that says they are 100% independent and doesn’t have some percentage of outside influence is outright lying. Does the Whitehouse (in general) use press access passes as bartering chip, yes of course! With that said, “state-affiliated” depends on criteria. Whether it’s agreed upon or not, Twitter set their criteria. Other outlets set their criteria as well…on news, politics, health, and illicit.
- lowkey 3y agoNPR is listed as government-funded media, not state-affiliated media [0] A large part of their funding comes from congress -> corporation for public broadcasting -> local NPR affiliates -> NPR. It is indirect funding, yes, but they are very much funded by the US government. [0] https://mobile.twitter.com/NPR https://mobile.twitter.com/NPR
- 54D2AFD131F3 3y agoIt was changed to that. Originally the label was as given in the headline: "state-affiliated media".
- OrlandoHakim 3y agobut as v0idzer0 pointed out in a reply to your similar comment above "it was changed before this piece and before NPR decided to leave. Twitter acknowledged that label was incorrect and changed it. Then NPR had a temper tantrum and left and this piece implied they left over that label. It’s misleading at best"
- cycomanic 3y agoHow is 1% a large part? Quoting https://www.npr.org/about-npr/178660742/public-radio-finances https://www.npr.org/about-npr/178660742/public-radio-finance... > On average, less than 1% of NPR's annual operating budget comes in the form of grants from CPB and federal agencies and departments.
- lowkey 3y agoThey are playing fast and loose with their accounting by ignoring the large contribution that comes from local affiliate stations, local affiliate stations that receive a large part of their funding from the corporation for public broadcasting, a government sponsored entity. In reality government funding accounts for much more than 1% of NPR's budget.
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