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Fish don't know they're in water. If you've been ingesting a narrative since middle school, and the BBC reinforces it, well that's just good neutral unbiased r
by woooooo 4y ago
Fish don't know they're in water.
If you've been ingesting a narrative since middle school, and the BBC reinforces it, well that's just good neutral unbiased reporting.
- roflyear 4y agoIt's always telling when people with narratives to push don't directly answer questions.
- lostlogin 4y agoI don’t regularly read the BBC or NPR. I have watched the BBC skirmish with government over their independence and it’s an active fight (see Gary Lineker fighter recently, interesting, on Twitter). Do you see these fights for independence in Chinese and Russian news channels? And do you really think them similar to the BBC and NPR?
- woooooo 4y agoYou will never, ever see a mainstream western news org demonize the US the way they do to Russia and China routinely. Are they the exact same? No, but they're not so different when you zoom out. You don't need explicit censorship when you can manufacture consent at the hiring and promotion stages.
- lostlogin 4y agoDo you think the US, China and Russia similar? I have a lot of criticism for the US, but the US can at least punish its rulers at the ballot box. The US isn’t chucking journalists out the window or vanishing them on a regular basis. Objectively, it’s hard say the three are similar, as two of those countries deserve more criticism. They are not the same when you zoom out. I am not an American.
- woooooo 4y agoI could criticize or compliment all 3 depending on the topic or my mood. If we're so much better in the west, maybe we can hold ourselves accountable and question our own biases.
- lostlogin 4y agoIf we are so much worse, why isn’t accountability and criticism a thing in a Russia and China?
- alfor 4y agoExactly, I have been trying to explain it to people here (Québec/Canada) Here people believe the CBC is an impartial view of reality, it’s through that filter they see all the events of the world. Information that contradict their narrative become disinformation or conspiration. Or you get labeled racist/transphobe/Trump supporter at the first doubt Give me little hope for our country at the moment.
- d23 4y agoIt's not that it's impartial or unbiased. It's that it's not an editorial arm for the state. The United States doesn't even have a centralized, consistent state-run party that would exercise consistent pressure on NPR to publish certain stories or frame them in a certain way. It's an absurd comparison to link these to Chinese or Russian state-affiliated media.
- skrowl 4y ago[flagged]
- d23 4y agoThe burden on is on you to provide evidence for your claims, not for me to go fishing for them. Regardless, I doubt whatever you have in mind is anything similar to an authoritarian regime that literally murders critical journalists and poisons opposition politicians. It is an absurd comparison.
- mardifoufs 4y agoIt doesn't have to be on the level of russia or china to be bad. What a weird arbitrary goalpost.
- alfor 4y agoRussia and China didn’t start that way, it’s a process.