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It's nonsense that batteries die after 100k and also totally wrong that they end up in landfills. Car batteries have high reuse value for letting lots of us ca

It's nonsense that batteries die after 100k and also totally wrong that they end up in landfills. Car batteries have high reuse value for letting lots of us cases. Recycling is irrelevant because the amount of batteries going offline is a tiny pitence compared to what is produced knew. There are actually not enough batteries for all the companies wanting to do recycling. Eventually recycling will make sense but it will be quite a while from now. You assertion that all EV fail after 50k is disproved by ever analysis on repair cost. But you are right lobbying and bad choices led to larger cars. However the solution was to force those under the same law and only allow very targeted exception with special licences.

SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
> It's nonsense that batteries die after 100k > You assertion that all EV fail after 50k is disproved by ever analysis on repair cost. Never said either of those things. There is more to an EV than the battery. But OK, I respect your opinion that these don't go to landfills vs my watching 10k Fiat EV batteries go to a landfill, which wasn't some spectacular event, but basically a Thursday. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/08/gm-recalls-every-chevy-bolt-ever-made-blames-lg-for-faulty-batteries/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/08/gm-recalls-every-chevy-... You want to bet what happened to these 100-150k batteries with bad chemistry? They went to the landfill homie. >But you are right lobbying and bad choices led to larger cars. However the solution was to force those under the same law and only allow very targeted exception with special licenses. I can not agree that the problem with regulation/legislation/lobbying is just double more harder. (It's really hard as someone who has seen automotive mfging scale explain it to people who haven't)
- panick21_ 4y ago
  > They went to the landfill homie. Do you have evidence? Also, whatever happened in that case, there are industry statistics about battery materials and they clearly show that most batteries do not end up in landfils. > I can not agree that the problem with regulation/legislation/lobbying is just double more harder. Setting regulation as such it gets you the outcome you need, is not doing it harder, its doing it correctly.
  - SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
    >Do you have evidence? 20+ years in this industry. That you don't believe it is just so far away from reality that I can't help you. Do you want a CNN article that a PR paid for to say "Yea! We're throwing hundreds of thousands of batteries away!!" because we/they don't typically pay for you to see things like that.

SV_BubbleTime 4y ago

> It's nonsense that batteries die after 100k > You assertion that all EV fail after 50k is disproved by ever analysis on repair cost. Never said either of those things. There is more to an EV than the battery. But OK, I respect your opinion that these don't go to landfills vs my watching 10k Fiat EV batteries go to a landfill, which wasn't some spectacular event, but basically a Thursday. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/08/gm-recalls-every-chevy-bolt-ever-made-blames-lg-for-faulty-batteries/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/08/gm-recalls-every-chevy-... You want to bet what happened to these 100-150k batteries with bad chemistry? They went to the landfill homie. >But you are right lobbying and bad choices led to larger cars. However the solution was to force those under the same law and only allow very targeted exception with special licenses. I can not agree that the problem with regulation/legislation/lobbying is just double more harder. (It's really hard as someone who has seen automotive mfging scale explain it to people who haven't)

panick21_ 4y ago
> They went to the landfill homie. Do you have evidence? Also, whatever happened in that case, there are industry statistics about battery materials and they clearly show that most batteries do not end up in landfils. > I can not agree that the problem with regulation/legislation/lobbying is just double more harder. Setting regulation as such it gets you the outcome you need, is not doing it harder, its doing it correctly.
- SV_BubbleTime 4y ago
  >Do you have evidence? 20+ years in this industry. That you don't believe it is just so far away from reality that I can't help you. Do you want a CNN article that a PR paid for to say "Yea! We're throwing hundreds of thousands of batteries away!!" because we/they don't typically pay for you to see things like that.