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White English-speaking people are a minority in the world. If it seems that you can't get along with them, why not try out living in a place where there are few

White English-speaking people are a minority in the world. If it seems that you can't get along with them, why not try out living in a place where there are fewer of them? Cameroon, Pakistan or Indonesia... so many countries to choose from. It could be a healing experience getting out of your bubble and experiencing less racism, homophobia and all the other toxic stuff you describe.

NikolaNovak 4y ago
I guess it would not be obvious from my post; I was born in a non-English speaking country; and after years of civil war, racism, xenophobia, and people shooting at me because of my name or perceived religion or ethnicity etc, I'm now in Canada, and happily, gratefully, excitedly so :) But I am always wary of the risk and danger of my new country going the way of my old country. I don't think it's a given that Canada and Canadians will be tolerant, open minded, welcoming, friendly - and indeed, many people underneath their veneer, are not. In this context, mentioning in my post that I'm english speaking is to acknowledge my privilege of not immediatelly appearing to some people as being an immigrant, poor, or different than some of my neighbours. I imagine e.g. a dark-skinned woman with a less Western name and more obviously non-christian, would find out some of these fine folks' true nature a lot faster :-/
- dpc050505 4y ago
  > I don't think it's a given that Canada and Canadians will be tolerant, open minded, welcoming, friendly - and indeed, many people underneath their veneer, are not. A lot of Québécois have stories of relatives being arrested without probable cause by the RCMP during the october crisis of 1970. Some of us have indigenous friends whose parents were in the residential school system. A lot of us have witnessed unconstitutional arrests during g20 protests in Toronto in 2011 or in Québec in 2012 go unpunished for the politicians who ordered them and the cops who carried them out (it's literally kidnapping). Canada is a corporatocracy. Read Alain Denault's books. Canada acts as a legal shelter for natural ressource extraction companies that commit crimes in developing countries. A lot of the big markets in the country (groceries, telecom, etc.) are full on oligopolies that are protected by the government. This country is part of the british empire and when you pull back the veneer of politeness and decency you see a very violent country.
  - NikolaNovak 4y ago
    I don't think we are in a disagreement, necessarily. To another poster's point, I've lived in different bubbles and this one is better. It's far from perfect though, and it's not guaranteed whether it'll go toward better or less good.

NikolaNovak 4y ago

I guess it would not be obvious from my post; I was born in a non-English speaking country; and after years of civil war, racism, xenophobia, and people shooting at me because of my name or perceived religion or ethnicity etc, I'm now in Canada, and happily, gratefully, excitedly so :) But I am always wary of the risk and danger of my new country going the way of my old country. I don't think it's a given that Canada and Canadians will be tolerant, open minded, welcoming, friendly - and indeed, many people underneath their veneer, are not. In this context, mentioning in my post that I'm english speaking is to acknowledge my privilege of not immediatelly appearing to some people as being an immigrant, poor, or different than some of my neighbours. I imagine e.g. a dark-skinned woman with a less Western name and more obviously non-christian, would find out some of these fine folks' true nature a lot faster :-/

dpc050505 4y ago
> I don't think it's a given that Canada and Canadians will be tolerant, open minded, welcoming, friendly - and indeed, many people underneath their veneer, are not. A lot of Québécois have stories of relatives being arrested without probable cause by the RCMP during the october crisis of 1970. Some of us have indigenous friends whose parents were in the residential school system. A lot of us have witnessed unconstitutional arrests during g20 protests in Toronto in 2011 or in Québec in 2012 go unpunished for the politicians who ordered them and the cops who carried them out (it's literally kidnapping). Canada is a corporatocracy. Read Alain Denault's books. Canada acts as a legal shelter for natural ressource extraction companies that commit crimes in developing countries. A lot of the big markets in the country (groceries, telecom, etc.) are full on oligopolies that are protected by the government. This country is part of the british empire and when you pull back the veneer of politeness and decency you see a very violent country.
- NikolaNovak 4y ago
  I don't think we are in a disagreement, necessarily. To another poster's point, I've lived in different bubbles and this one is better. It's far from perfect though, and it's not guaranteed whether it'll go toward better or less good.