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>you could keep using the last version forever Note that this isn't what Jetbrains does. You only have a perpetual license to the version released when the sub

by mthoms 4y ago

>you could keep using the last version forever Note that this isn't what Jetbrains does. You only have a perpetual license to the version released when the subscription started. Thus, you'll have to downgrade and say good-bye to any features and fixes released over the term of your subscription.

iudqnolq 4y ago
Not quite: once you've paid for a version for twelve consecutive months you get a perpetual license to that version. If you unsubscribe you keep your perpetual licenses.
- mthoms 4y ago
  Sorry, but you're wrong. This misconception is very common. https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What-is-a-perpetual-fallback-license- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What... See here in particular https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/article_attachments/203511589/One_year.png https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/article_attachments/203511589...
  - iudqnolq 4y ago
    From your first link: > If paying on a monthly basis, as soon as you pay for 12 consecutive months, you will receive this perpetual fallback license providing you with access to the exact product version for when your 12 consecutive months subscription started. You will receive perpetual fallback licenses for every version you’ve paid 12 consecutive months for. (emphasis added) What did I get wrong?
    - mthoms 4y ago
      From your quote: >access to the exact product version for when your 12 consecutive months subscription started. (my emphasis) As for the rest of the quote from Jetbrains: >You will receive perpetual fallback licenses for every version you’ve paid 12 consecutive months for. In a one year subscription, the only version you will have paid 12 consecutive months for is the version that existed at the beginning of the 12 months. If a new version was released with only three months left in your subscription. Then it's impossible to have "paid 12 consecutive months for" it when your subscription is up. Here's a screenshot[0] I just took of my account. The subscription started about 6 weeks ago when 2022.3 was the latest version. Thus, as shown in the screenshot it's the version I have perpetual license to. Even though 2023.1 was just released two weeks ago (roughly three weeks into my subscription) [1]. It's all worded terribly (probably intentionally so) so I don't fault anyone for getting the wrong interpretation. The whole thing gives me a bad impression even I though I love JB otherwise. [0] https://imgur.com/a/SSLPijk https://imgur.com/a/SSLPijk [1] https://blog.jetbrains.com/webstorm/tag/webstorm-2023-1/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/webstorm/tag/webstorm-2023-1/
      - iudqnolq 4y ago
        What you're missing is that a one year monthly subscription isn't a thing. You buy a monthly subscription and then cancel it some number of months later. At that point you get the most recent version you've paid twelve months for. If you cancel a monthly subscription after paying three months you get nothing, because you haven't paid for any version for 13 months. You paid for a yearly subscription. So you've paid for 12 months already.
        mthoms 4y ago
        No, you don't. I literally just went through this, personally. My one year subscription expired at the end of last year and I was forced to downgrade. Then, I re-subscribed for a year last month. I showed you screenshot proof that even though 2023.1 is the current version. I only have a perpetual ("fallback") license for 2022.3. What, do you think I faked the screenshot? This is such a weird exchange. Here's another link to their site. After you realize you're wrong, I hope you're a little bit bothered by JetBrains antics. All this confusion is entirely on purpose. Link: https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/206544479-Subscription-based-licensing-model-vs-perpetual-licensing-model https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/206544479-Subs... Quote from that page: >If purchasing annually: You will immediately get a perpetual fallback license for the exact version available at the time of purchase. This license will allow you to use that exact version of the software should you decide to discontinue the subscription after the year is up. I wish I found that page to begin with, but like I said - JetBrains has made it difficult to get a clear answer. So here we are.

by mthoms 4y ago

iudqnolq 4y ago

Not quite: once you've paid for a version for twelve consecutive months you get a perpetual license to that version. If you unsubscribe you keep your perpetual licenses.

mthoms 4y ago
Sorry, but you're wrong. This misconception is very common. https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What-is-a-perpetual-fallback-license- https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/207240845-What... See here in particular https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/article_attachments/203511589/One_year.png https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/article_attachments/203511589...
- iudqnolq 4y ago
  From your first link: > If paying on a monthly basis, as soon as you pay for 12 consecutive months, you will receive this perpetual fallback license providing you with access to the exact product version for when your 12 consecutive months subscription started. You will receive perpetual fallback licenses for every version you’ve paid 12 consecutive months for. (emphasis added) What did I get wrong?
  - mthoms 4y ago
    From your quote: >access to the exact product version for when your 12 consecutive months subscription started. (my emphasis) As for the rest of the quote from Jetbrains: >You will receive perpetual fallback licenses for every version you’ve paid 12 consecutive months for. In a one year subscription, the only version you will have paid 12 consecutive months for is the version that existed at the beginning of the 12 months. If a new version was released with only three months left in your subscription. Then it's impossible to have "paid 12 consecutive months for" it when your subscription is up. Here's a screenshot[0] I just took of my account. The subscription started about 6 weeks ago when 2022.3 was the latest version. Thus, as shown in the screenshot it's the version I have perpetual license to. Even though 2023.1 was just released two weeks ago (roughly three weeks into my subscription) [1]. It's all worded terribly (probably intentionally so) so I don't fault anyone for getting the wrong interpretation. The whole thing gives me a bad impression even I though I love JB otherwise. [0] https://imgur.com/a/SSLPijk https://imgur.com/a/SSLPijk [1] https://blog.jetbrains.com/webstorm/tag/webstorm-2023-1/ https://blog.jetbrains.com/webstorm/tag/webstorm-2023-1/
    - iudqnolq 4y ago
      What you're missing is that a one year monthly subscription isn't a thing. You buy a monthly subscription and then cancel it some number of months later. At that point you get the most recent version you've paid twelve months for. If you cancel a monthly subscription after paying three months you get nothing, because you haven't paid for any version for 13 months. You paid for a yearly subscription. So you've paid for 12 months already.
      - mthoms 4y ago
        No, you don't. I literally just went through this, personally. My one year subscription expired at the end of last year and I was forced to downgrade. Then, I re-subscribed for a year last month. I showed you screenshot proof that even though 2023.1 is the current version. I only have a perpetual ("fallback") license for 2022.3. What, do you think I faked the screenshot? This is such a weird exchange. Here's another link to their site. After you realize you're wrong, I hope you're a little bit bothered by JetBrains antics. All this confusion is entirely on purpose. Link: https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/206544479-Subscription-based-licensing-model-vs-perpetual-licensing-model https://sales.jetbrains.com/hc/en-gb/articles/206544479-Subs... Quote from that page: >If purchasing annually: You will immediately get a perpetual fallback license for the exact version available at the time of purchase. This license will allow you to use that exact version of the software should you decide to discontinue the subscription after the year is up. I wish I found that page to begin with, but like I said - JetBrains has made it difficult to get a clear answer. So here we are.