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I’ve never paid much attention to Hetzner but this interested me. Upon clicking the call to action in the announcement they blocked me with “Request on Hold - S

I’ve never paid much attention to Hetzner but this interested me. Upon clicking the call to action in the announcement they blocked me with “Request on Hold - Suspicous Activity Detected”. I have no interest in subjecting myself to this treatment.

sgtfrankieboy 4y ago
It's literally just an alternative to Cloudflares attack protection.
- aendruk 4y ago
  Okay, and responding to their ad is an “attack”?
  - sgtfrankieboy 4y ago
    It might be, it's to filter out would be attackers. Normal users are just hit as well.
sunshadow 4y ago
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fckgw 4y ago
Do you get this indigent over every error message you see?
- MuffinFlavored 4y ago
  it’s almost like VPS hosting services have to be careful due to rampant fraud or something
  - grrdotcloud 4y ago
    There's a level of friction that is too much for some. I'm attempting to soften that friction when I launch my PaaS My concern over bots and misuse is a concern. I'm thinking of crippling the free service to allow full functionality but limiting it's use to really tiny files.
  - linsomniac 4y ago
    And it's ALWAYS been that way. A very long time ago I implemented a VPS hosting. How long ago? It was implemented using User Mode Linux. I want to say it was 2003. We had most of our success in a specific geographic region, and also within the Python community. We originally had automated sign-up, but found that if we got a signup from someone who's name we didn't recognize, it was basically guaranteed to be fraud. In the early days it was slightly amusing to get calls from older folks trying to understand what a virtual server was.
- aendruk 4y ago
  I don’t think you were looking for a serious answer, but I’ve thought this over and there’s a broader point to be made here. What I think you’re suggesting is that my trouble is with the machine—some version of frustrated human fighting with inanimate objects. In general this is a framing I oppose; automated machines are created by people, and people carry the responsibility for their creations. “The computer did it” is never an excuse. So in a way, yes; I tend to view “error messages” as you put it as an extension of their creators, who very well may be worthy of indignation.

sgtfrankieboy 4y ago

It's literally just an alternative to Cloudflares attack protection.

aendruk 4y ago
Okay, and responding to their ad is an “attack”?
- sgtfrankieboy 4y ago
  It might be, it's to filter out would be attackers. Normal users are just hit as well.

sunshadow 4y ago

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fckgw 4y ago

Do you get this indigent over every error message you see?

MuffinFlavored 4y ago
it’s almost like VPS hosting services have to be careful due to rampant fraud or something
- grrdotcloud 4y ago
  There's a level of friction that is too much for some. I'm attempting to soften that friction when I launch my PaaS My concern over bots and misuse is a concern. I'm thinking of crippling the free service to allow full functionality but limiting it's use to really tiny files.
- linsomniac 4y ago
  And it's ALWAYS been that way. A very long time ago I implemented a VPS hosting. How long ago? It was implemented using User Mode Linux. I want to say it was 2003. We had most of our success in a specific geographic region, and also within the Python community. We originally had automated sign-up, but found that if we got a signup from someone who's name we didn't recognize, it was basically guaranteed to be fraud. In the early days it was slightly amusing to get calls from older folks trying to understand what a virtual server was.
aendruk 4y ago
I don’t think you were looking for a serious answer, but I’ve thought this over and there’s a broader point to be made here. What I think you’re suggesting is that my trouble is with the machine—some version of frustrated human fighting with inanimate objects. In general this is a framing I oppose; automated machines are created by people, and people carry the responsibility for their creations. “The computer did it” is never an excuse. So in a way, yes; I tend to view “error messages” as you put it as an extension of their creators, who very well may be worthy of indignation.