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There’s a bit of a “Pluto problem” [1] though with labeling NPR and not explicitly government supported media organizations like Voice of America. This suggests

There’s a bit of a “Pluto problem” [1] though with labeling NPR and not explicitly government supported media organizations like Voice of America. This suggests to me that the decision was based on some personal beef the owner has with NPR and not any kind of objective basis. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33462184 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33462184 (warning: BBC is explicitly supported by the British Government)

justin66 3y ago
Twitter have got the govenrment-funded label on VoA now. But not the BBC, curiously. > some personal beef the owner has with NPR NPR is a bogeyman of the American right-wing media, which Musk seems to be consuming an awful lot of in recent years.
- empressplay 3y ago
  The BBBC is funded by TV license fees so their funding is more arms length, also they make money through BBC Worldwide and collaborations with external media companies like HBO. As such they commonly shit on the government of the day, no matter who it is
  - justin66 3y ago
    I don't know how you'd apply measurement using the length of arms and conclude that BBC receives less money than NPR from the government. In any case, editorial influence is a lot more important, and that's where the BBC is falling down lately. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/15/the-guardian-view-on-bbc-independence-compromised-at-the-top https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/15/the-gu...
- throwaway8582 3y ago
  > But not the BBC, curiously You should check these things before posting. It says "Government-funded Media" right at the top of the page here: https://twitter.com/BBC https://twitter.com/BBC
  - justin66 3y ago
    I shit you not: it did not an hour ago.
    - Spivak 3y ago
      https://archive.ph/VJhTR https://archive.ph/VJhTR recorded on 12 Apr 2023 07:43:40 UTC.
    - deleted 3y ago
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    - stickfigure 3y ago
      ...and another hour later it says "Publicly funded media". Someone is winging it.
    - drak0n1c 3y ago
      It was there yesterday from what I recall. However, there are like 10 variant official accounts of BBC. Only one had the label at first. Similar to how NPR has multiple accounts but only the "main" one had the label. Twitter should be more consistent in labeling all accounts under a company if this is the new policy.
      - jacquesm 3y ago
        Twitter will be consistent when Elon Musk is no longer its owner.
  - jjulius 3y ago
    >It says "Government-funded Media"... It currently says "Publicly funded media", not "Government-funded Media", and that muddies the waters a bit - publicly-funded doesn't necessarily mean government-funded. Not sure if it said "Gov-funded" an hour ago when you commented or not, as the other person who replied to you suggests that changes to these statements appear to be pretty fluid at the moment.
    - 3y ago
trasz3 3y ago
Oh, definitely; it could be based on literally anything, or just effectively random. But it doesn't change my view of whether the outcome is positive or not.

justin66 3y ago

Twitter have got the govenrment-funded label on VoA now. But not the BBC, curiously. > some personal beef the owner has with NPR NPR is a bogeyman of the American right-wing media, which Musk seems to be consuming an awful lot of in recent years.

empressplay 3y ago
The BBBC is funded by TV license fees so their funding is more arms length, also they make money through BBC Worldwide and collaborations with external media companies like HBO. As such they commonly shit on the government of the day, no matter who it is
- justin66 3y ago
  I don't know how you'd apply measurement using the length of arms and conclude that BBC receives less money than NPR from the government. In any case, editorial influence is a lot more important, and that's where the BBC is falling down lately. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/15/the-guardian-view-on-bbc-independence-compromised-at-the-top https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/15/the-gu...
throwaway8582 3y ago
> But not the BBC, curiously You should check these things before posting. It says "Government-funded Media" right at the top of the page here: https://twitter.com/BBC https://twitter.com/BBC
- justin66 3y ago
  I shit you not: it did not an hour ago.
  - Spivak 3y ago
    https://archive.ph/VJhTR https://archive.ph/VJhTR recorded on 12 Apr 2023 07:43:40 UTC.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
  - stickfigure 3y ago
    ...and another hour later it says "Publicly funded media". Someone is winging it.
  - drak0n1c 3y ago
    It was there yesterday from what I recall. However, there are like 10 variant official accounts of BBC. Only one had the label at first. Similar to how NPR has multiple accounts but only the "main" one had the label. Twitter should be more consistent in labeling all accounts under a company if this is the new policy.
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      Twitter will be consistent when Elon Musk is no longer its owner.
- jjulius 3y ago
  >It says "Government-funded Media"... It currently says "Publicly funded media", not "Government-funded Media", and that muddies the waters a bit - publicly-funded doesn't necessarily mean government-funded. Not sure if it said "Gov-funded" an hour ago when you commented or not, as the other person who replied to you suggests that changes to these statements appear to be pretty fluid at the moment.
  - 3y ago

trasz3 3y ago

Oh, definitely; it could be based on literally anything, or just effectively random. But it doesn't change my view of whether the outcome is positive or not.