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This team ships, every few years, there is a company HN loves, few years ago it was CloudFlare/Stripe, Supabase feels to be in the same class. Linear as well.

no_wizard 3y ago
Supabase and Linear do deserve the hype IMO and Cloudflare still does. Stripe has gotten a bit more iffy for me, with some of their poor practices around frozen accounts
- Whiteshadow12 3y ago
  I get the iffyness, I suspect there is probably more to it then the public sees, for example it could be their underlying layer or something else.
- waboremo 3y ago
  Cloudflare and Stripe have just reached that stage where there isn't much to hype about. They're now dealing with problems that are gnarly, as opposed to "we just launched a storage service!" Not to diminish Supabase, Fly, etc. and their tremendous work, it's just a completely different lane of expectations.
  - no_wizard 3y ago
    To me its more than just release new features and improvements (though Cloudflare could do well improving the speed around this a bit, a nice cadence around services and a public-ish roadmap would be ideal IMO). More importantly, I think Cloudflare, Supabase and Linear are innovating and really nice to use, generally speaking[0] [0]: they all have edge cases and what not, and sometimes failures, don't get me wrong
paulgb 3y ago
I'd add Tailscale and Fly.io to the category, too. Well-written technical blogs are truly the way to HN's heart.
- traceroute66 3y ago
  > Fly.io ... well-written technical blogs I'm not sure I would class fly.io as well-written technical blogs. Well-written yes, technical no. I used to think the fly.io ones were good, but having read a good few of them I've found they follow the same repetitive structure: - Very light on detail (fly.io blogs are carefully written to *sound* like they're giving you detail, but in reality it's all a 50,000ft view, and a lightweight one at that. Given the length of their average blog post, they could and should do better.). - Constantly going off-tangent, whether randomly talking about sandwich fillings, food-types, or just a paragraph with the author's rant about how they dislike a particular technology. The first couple of times its cute, but after that, not so much ...
  - mrkurt 3y ago
    Would you mind sharing specifics about the first bullet? What's the last post you read you thought could have gone deeper? We definitely want to go deep, some of our posts are better than others.
    - 0zemp1c 3y ago
      tbh you seem too focused on making HN happy, makes me wonder about your focus
      - mrkurt 3y ago
        I appreciate it. I do struggle with focus. Thank you for giving me a nudge.
      - joshmanders 3y ago
        In his defense, HN is his target audience so making them happy is important too.
    - kiwicopple 3y ago
      fwiw Kurt, I love reading Fly.io posts. your "globally distributed postgres" post especially[0], which had plenty of depth and no sandwhiches [0] https://fly.io/blog/globally-distributed-postgres/ https://fly.io/blog/globally-distributed-postgres/
shados 3y ago
Yeah, supabase is great. I think if they could get the auth story a little more polished (it "works", but its definitely weak/buggy in some aspects compared to alternatives, and hard to use), and made some advanced use cases with Prisma easier to do (or better documented) since that's such a common pairing, they'd be even easier to recommend. Right now I still use Supabase because I think they're a solid "Postgresql as a service" offering, but they're just SO CLOSE to being so much more than that. They have all the pieces, they just don't all work quite the way folks expect. They'll get there, I'm sure.

no_wizard 3y ago

Supabase and Linear do deserve the hype IMO and Cloudflare still does. Stripe has gotten a bit more iffy for me, with some of their poor practices around frozen accounts

Whiteshadow12 3y ago
I get the iffyness, I suspect there is probably more to it then the public sees, for example it could be their underlying layer or something else.
waboremo 3y ago
Cloudflare and Stripe have just reached that stage where there isn't much to hype about. They're now dealing with problems that are gnarly, as opposed to "we just launched a storage service!" Not to diminish Supabase, Fly, etc. and their tremendous work, it's just a completely different lane of expectations.
- no_wizard 3y ago
  To me its more than just release new features and improvements (though Cloudflare could do well improving the speed around this a bit, a nice cadence around services and a public-ish roadmap would be ideal IMO). More importantly, I think Cloudflare, Supabase and Linear are innovating and really nice to use, generally speaking[0] [0]: they all have edge cases and what not, and sometimes failures, don't get me wrong

paulgb 3y ago

I'd add Tailscale and Fly.io to the category, too. Well-written technical blogs are truly the way to HN's heart.

traceroute66 3y ago
> Fly.io ... well-written technical blogs I'm not sure I would class fly.io as well-written technical blogs. Well-written yes, technical no. I used to think the fly.io ones were good, but having read a good few of them I've found they follow the same repetitive structure: - Very light on detail (fly.io blogs are carefully written to *sound* like they're giving you detail, but in reality it's all a 50,000ft view, and a lightweight one at that. Given the length of their average blog post, they could and should do better.). - Constantly going off-tangent, whether randomly talking about sandwich fillings, food-types, or just a paragraph with the author's rant about how they dislike a particular technology. The first couple of times its cute, but after that, not so much ...
- mrkurt 3y ago
  Would you mind sharing specifics about the first bullet? What's the last post you read you thought could have gone deeper? We definitely want to go deep, some of our posts are better than others.
  - 0zemp1c 3y ago
    tbh you seem too focused on making HN happy, makes me wonder about your focus
    - mrkurt 3y ago
      I appreciate it. I do struggle with focus. Thank you for giving me a nudge.
    - joshmanders 3y ago
      In his defense, HN is his target audience so making them happy is important too.
  - kiwicopple 3y ago
    fwiw Kurt, I love reading Fly.io posts. your "globally distributed postgres" post especially[0], which had plenty of depth and no sandwhiches [0] https://fly.io/blog/globally-distributed-postgres/ https://fly.io/blog/globally-distributed-postgres/

shados 3y ago

Yeah, supabase is great. I think if they could get the auth story a little more polished (it "works", but its definitely weak/buggy in some aspects compared to alternatives, and hard to use), and made some advanced use cases with Prisma easier to do (or better documented) since that's such a common pairing, they'd be even easier to recommend. Right now I still use Supabase because I think they're a solid "Postgresql as a service" offering, but they're just SO CLOSE to being so much more than that. They have all the pieces, they just don't all work quite the way folks expect. They'll get there, I'm sure.