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> Efficiency and cost are also less than optimal. Based on what? A Kiro Niro PHEV is cheaper than a Kiro Niro BEV. https://www.kia.com/us/en/niro-plug-in-hybr
by endisneigh 4y ago
> Efficiency and cost are also less than optimal.
Based on what? A Kiro Niro PHEV is cheaper than a Kiro Niro BEV.
https://www.kia.com/us/en/niro-plug-in-hybrid https://www.kia.com/us/en/niro-plug-in-hybrid
https://www.kia.com/us/en/niro-ev https://www.kia.com/us/en/niro-ev
The same trend exists for all other cars that have both PHEV and BEV models.
> On short trips, the electric power train has to drag around the ICE components. On a long trip, the ICE has to drag around the electric components.
The same could be said about BEV and the extra weight, amounting to hundreds of unnecessary pounds being towed, which by the way weighs more than ICE components than a PHEV. (in the case of the Kiro Niro, the plug-in hybrid components add 250 pounds compared to ICE, and the Niro BEV adds a whopping 700 pounds extra compared to ICE. In other words, the BEV differential from PHEV adds more than from ICE to PHEV).
The amount of FUD surrounding PHEV every time it's mentioned really is amazing.
- jqpabc123 4y agoBased on what? A Kiro Niro PHEV is cheaper than a Kiro Niro BEV. Based on the simple fact that battery costs are rapidly trending downward as production ramps up --- while ICE components are not following a similar trend.
- endisneigh 4y agoyou can't see a trend and extrapolate it indefinitely, smh. not to mention any magical battery price reduction would also apply to PHEV.
- jqpabc123 4y agoBattery price reductions aren't magic, they are as inevitable as any other advancing technology. "Magic" is assuming that the added complexity of a dual power train will always be cheaper.
- endisneigh 4y agook then. I look forward to the $15K brand new electric cars in 5 years (per your other comment), lol. I've saved your comment here. it'll be nice for a laugh in 2028.
- jqpabc123 4y agoI don't need to wait 5 years to laugh --- electric cars don't have to cost $15K to be cheaper than PHEV. A Chevy Bolt EV is already cheaper than some Toyota PHEV.
- endisneigh 4y agoyou mean the same Chevy Bolt EV that's been recalled for battery failure? lol. https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/bolt-recall https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/bolt-recall battery fires are cool tho > Park your vehicle outside immediately after charging and do not leave your vehicle charging indoors overnight. what a joke also, the Hyundai Ioniq PHEV is cheaper for its class of vehicle than the Bolt EV, so looks like BEVs are still more expensive.
- jqpabc123 4y agoIs there any real need to point out how many recalls ICE vehicles have had?