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I drove a Toyota Corolla Hybrid a few months ago. Loved the car.

by 4pkjai 4y ago

lostlogin 4y ago
This as a wagon or a Camry wagon with plug in option. My ultimate. My ICE Corolla was bullet proof. I’d love some of that with a battery.
asplake 4y ago
I have one and am very pleased with it. Before that a Rav4 hybrid, one of best cars I have ever owned. I found Toyota’s past resistance to EVs embarrassing. This is a very welcome step.
- robertlagrant 4y ago
  This is a plug-in hybrid, though? They've been selling a plug-in Prius since 2012.
  - VBprogrammer 4y ago
    I don't even know if this counts as a plug-in when it has an electric only range which betters electric cars of a few years ago. Maybe a whole new category electric cars with optional ability to use petrol.
    - masklinn 4y ago
      Not counting as a plug-in would mean it’s a reclaiming-only hybrid, not that it’s an EV. The entire point of a plug-in hybrid is that you can use it as a straight EV in a non-trivial subset of cases. > Maybe a whole new category electric cars with optional ability to use petrol. That’s usually called a range-extended EV, but that’s reserved for “series” architectures, which is not something Toyota wants to do. The Volt and i3 are probably the most well-known examples. The volt has a pretty short all-electric range (topped out at 50 miles on the second gen), the i3 was designed as an EV first so the range extended models had a more respectable 125mi all-electric, plus ~75 from the range extender (the straight EV model topped out at 150mi range). It was very much a transitional model though, both successors are only available as pure EVs.
      - VBprogrammer 4y ago
        My point was that the standard of plug-in hybrids is 40 miles or less without using the engine. Which is great if you happen to have a regular 15-20 mile commute but for most people makes it more like a non-plugin / self-charging [sic] / full-hybrid [don't ask me]. 100+ miles means it's, for a lot of people, basically an electric car. Perhaps the defining line is that with 100 mile range you'd be likely to top-up the battery part on a long journey rather than just ignoring it. I do feel that makes it a different category, more like the range extended EVs.
        masklinn 4y ago
        > My point was that the standard of plug-in hybrids is 40 miles or less without using the engine. That’s not a point because it has nothing to do with the moniker “plug-in”. And is also not really true (because what “the standard”?)
        VBprogrammer 4y ago
        The standard is what every other plug-in hybrid on the market offers. I'm pretty sure you are just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point. You haven't added anything useful.
        masklinn 4y ago
        > The standard is what every other plug-in hybrid on the market offers. Ah so a strait up lie then. > I'm pretty sure you are just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point. You haven't added anything useful. Aside from giving you an example of a 10 years old hybrid with the kind of all-electric range you exclaim had never existed before, which you just decided to ignore entirely as you spouted a bunch of baseless assertions in not-support of your destruction of objective language? Have you considered reading your comments?
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I drove a Toyota Corolla Hybrid a few months ago. Loved the car.

by 4pkjai 4y ago

I drove a Toyota Corolla Hybrid a few months ago. Loved the car.

This as a wagon or a Camry wagon with plug in option. My ultimate. My ICE Corolla was bullet proof. I’d love some of that with a battery.

asplake 4y ago

I have one and am very pleased with it. Before that a Rav4 hybrid, one of best cars I have ever owned. I found Toyota’s past resistance to EVs embarrassing. This is a very welcome step.

robertlagrant 4y ago
This is a plug-in hybrid, though? They've been selling a plug-in Prius since 2012.
- VBprogrammer 4y ago
  I don't even know if this counts as a plug-in when it has an electric only range which betters electric cars of a few years ago. Maybe a whole new category electric cars with optional ability to use petrol.
  - masklinn 4y ago
    Not counting as a plug-in would mean it’s a reclaiming-only hybrid, not that it’s an EV. The entire point of a plug-in hybrid is that you can use it as a straight EV in a non-trivial subset of cases. > Maybe a whole new category electric cars with optional ability to use petrol. That’s usually called a range-extended EV, but that’s reserved for “series” architectures, which is not something Toyota wants to do. The Volt and i3 are probably the most well-known examples. The volt has a pretty short all-electric range (topped out at 50 miles on the second gen), the i3 was designed as an EV first so the range extended models had a more respectable 125mi all-electric, plus ~75 from the range extender (the straight EV model topped out at 150mi range). It was very much a transitional model though, both successors are only available as pure EVs.
    - VBprogrammer 4y ago
      My point was that the standard of plug-in hybrids is 40 miles or less without using the engine. Which is great if you happen to have a regular 15-20 mile commute but for most people makes it more like a non-plugin / self-charging [sic] / full-hybrid [don't ask me]. 100+ miles means it's, for a lot of people, basically an electric car. Perhaps the defining line is that with 100 mile range you'd be likely to top-up the battery part on a long journey rather than just ignoring it. I do feel that makes it a different category, more like the range extended EVs.
      - masklinn 4y ago
        > My point was that the standard of plug-in hybrids is 40 miles or less without using the engine. That’s not a point because it has nothing to do with the moniker “plug-in”. And is also not really true (because what “the standard”?)
        VBprogrammer 4y ago
        The standard is what every other plug-in hybrid on the market offers. I'm pretty sure you are just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point. You haven't added anything useful.
        masklinn 4y ago
        > The standard is what every other plug-in hybrid on the market offers. Ah so a strait up lie then. > I'm pretty sure you are just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point. You haven't added anything useful. Aside from giving you an example of a 10 years old hybrid with the kind of all-electric range you exclaim had never existed before, which you just decided to ignore entirely as you spouted a bunch of baseless assertions in not-support of your destruction of objective language? Have you considered reading your comments?
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