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> a special spot-the-satanist training that the teachers received as part of their professional development [...] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diavoli_della_Ba

> a special spot-the-satanist training that the teachers received as part of their professional development [...] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diavoli_della_Bassa_modenese https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diavoli_della_Bassa_modenese (unfortunately no En version of the page) I'm curious, as there is no English page, do you have any more information I can pursue regarding the 'spot-the-satanist training'? Curious what exactly that entailed and the signs they looked for.

8f2ab37a-ed6c 3y ago
It's cited in the Audible series itself (that's where the investigation was originally published: https://www.audible.com/pd/Podcast/B08JJNYH2J https://www.audible.com/pd/Podcast/B08JJNYH2J), which is many hours of content, so I wouldn't be able to easily dig that up unfortunately. If I recall correctly, it was a wave of professional instruction that was making its way through either teacher ed or psychologist ed, I imagine of US/UK origin. Do a search for "satanic ritual abuse" and all of the studies around it, e.g. https://www.jstor.org/stable/3813055 https://www.jstor.org/stable/3813055 By the way, here's one of the psychologists involved in the scandal getting jail time 20+ years later: https://www.ansa.it/english/news/politics/2021/11/11/psychiatrist-gets-4-yrs-in-fostering-abuse-case_13563c9a-b2e8-4d36-b2ab-f44c03bed859.html https://www.ansa.it/english/news/politics/2021/11/11/psychia... Just to clarify, since I misspoke, the training was not about spotting satanists, it was about spotting symptoms of satanic ritual abuse in children victimized by them.
- raffraffraff 3y ago
  Those responsible rarely get their comeuppance. I mean the academics and psychiatrists who invent this baloney, and continue pushing it for years, sustaining the delusion. Some of them are still practicing today. They've casually moved onto other things.
  - Yoric 3y ago
    Academics? At least in what I've seen of the US satanic panic, there were no academics that I know of. Journalists, police consultants, quack shrinks (I forgot which kind of psy.* they were), political and religious authorities, and generally people who had some power and/or money to gain from the panic.
    - aidenn0 3y ago
      GP posted an article by someone who was then (and appears to still be[1]) a professor of psychology at Pepperdine. If he's not an academic then we are fairly far into "no true Scottsman" at this point. [edit] I also forgot about the Bragas who were child psychologists at the University of Miami who have been accused by defendants (and their team) of inducing false allegations that put at least 3 people in jail. 1: https://gsep.pepperdine.edu/about/our-people/faculty/louis-cozolino/?faculty=lou_cozolino https://gsep.pepperdine.edu/about/our-people/faculty/louis-c...
      - Yoric 3y ago
        In that case, my bad.
    - raffraffraff 3y ago
      Diane Ehrensaft is one. She wrote a paper on it. She's still around.

8f2ab37a-ed6c 3y ago

It's cited in the Audible series itself (that's where the investigation was originally published: https://www.audible.com/pd/Podcast/B08JJNYH2J https://www.audible.com/pd/Podcast/B08JJNYH2J), which is many hours of content, so I wouldn't be able to easily dig that up unfortunately. If I recall correctly, it was a wave of professional instruction that was making its way through either teacher ed or psychologist ed, I imagine of US/UK origin. Do a search for "satanic ritual abuse" and all of the studies around it, e.g. https://www.jstor.org/stable/3813055 https://www.jstor.org/stable/3813055 By the way, here's one of the psychologists involved in the scandal getting jail time 20+ years later: https://www.ansa.it/english/news/politics/2021/11/11/psychiatrist-gets-4-yrs-in-fostering-abuse-case_13563c9a-b2e8-4d36-b2ab-f44c03bed859.html https://www.ansa.it/english/news/politics/2021/11/11/psychia... Just to clarify, since I misspoke, the training was not about spotting satanists, it was about spotting symptoms of satanic ritual abuse in children victimized by them.

raffraffraff 3y ago
Those responsible rarely get their comeuppance. I mean the academics and psychiatrists who invent this baloney, and continue pushing it for years, sustaining the delusion. Some of them are still practicing today. They've casually moved onto other things.
- Yoric 3y ago
  Academics? At least in what I've seen of the US satanic panic, there were no academics that I know of. Journalists, police consultants, quack shrinks (I forgot which kind of psy.* they were), political and religious authorities, and generally people who had some power and/or money to gain from the panic.
  - aidenn0 3y ago
    GP posted an article by someone who was then (and appears to still be[1]) a professor of psychology at Pepperdine. If he's not an academic then we are fairly far into "no true Scottsman" at this point. [edit] I also forgot about the Bragas who were child psychologists at the University of Miami who have been accused by defendants (and their team) of inducing false allegations that put at least 3 people in jail. 1: https://gsep.pepperdine.edu/about/our-people/faculty/louis-cozolino/?faculty=lou_cozolino https://gsep.pepperdine.edu/about/our-people/faculty/louis-c...
    - Yoric 3y ago
      In that case, my bad.
  - raffraffraff 3y ago
    Diane Ehrensaft is one. She wrote a paper on it. She's still around.