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I think something important to note is that SF does not have jurisdiction over the Federal Building's plaza/steps. I say that because it's a reminder of two th

by RC_ITR 4y ago

I think something important to note is that SF does not have jurisdiction over the Federal Building's plaza/steps. I say that because it's a reminder of two things: 1) This isn't really a policing issue (if it were, wouldn't you expect the Feds to police their plaza better?) 2)This isn't really an SF-specific issue, since America has freedom of movement. People go to SF because they don't have better alternatives. I think everyone in this thread who lives in a jurisdiction that would either jail or forcibly remove these people should remember that as they discuss SF policies, since their government (The US Federal Government) is just as capable of solving these problems as SF's is, and can't actually do anything about it with the current toolkit (even in a 10,000 sqft area). I also send this as a warning to those people, since SF is famous for experiencing social issues a decade or two before the rest of the country - Enjoy feeling like this is a foreign SF-specific thing while it lasts.

satvikpendem 4y ago
> since SF is famous for experiencing social issues a decade or two before the rest of the country Interesting, what other social issues? Do you mean housing for example?
- RC_ITR 4y ago
  Plenty of things were major issues in SF well before they diffused to the rest of the country. It’s why the American right is so dead set on villainizing SF’s progressive government: LGBT rights, recreational drug use, Nimby-ism (to your point), Internet socialization/commerce, rejecting elevated freeways, freely moving between jobs multiple times in a career (see: The treacherous 8), voting by mail, bicycle commuting, living alone/not having a traditional family structure. SF is a place full of wealthy college educated people and as the saying goes “The future is here, it’s just for the rich.” I’d argue that national trends around a drug use, housing policy, family structure, and Internet usage (phones make being homeless way better than before) are going to make homelessness much more common everywhere, SF is just at the frontier.

by RC_ITR 4y ago

satvikpendem 4y ago

> since SF is famous for experiencing social issues a decade or two before the rest of the country Interesting, what other social issues? Do you mean housing for example?

RC_ITR 4y ago
Plenty of things were major issues in SF well before they diffused to the rest of the country. It’s why the American right is so dead set on villainizing SF’s progressive government: LGBT rights, recreational drug use, Nimby-ism (to your point), Internet socialization/commerce, rejecting elevated freeways, freely moving between jobs multiple times in a career (see: The treacherous 8), voting by mail, bicycle commuting, living alone/not having a traditional family structure. SF is a place full of wealthy college educated people and as the saying goes “The future is here, it’s just for the rich.” I’d argue that national trends around a drug use, housing policy, family structure, and Internet usage (phones make being homeless way better than before) are going to make homelessness much more common everywhere, SF is just at the frontier.