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W.r.t. the first bullet point, I don't think NY was any different - AFAIK the governor didn't "mess" with it (despite the reporting making it look that way); sh

W.r.t. the first bullet point, I don't think NY was any different - AFAIK the governor didn't "mess" with it (despite the reporting making it look that way); she just didn't sign it until the legislature revised it. The second one is nice to hear though.

z3c0 4y ago
I was about to say the same. It appears the NY bill was ineffective from the jump and wouldn't have amounted to more than pageantry for the companies refusing to give such rights. It was a good thing that is was killed at the last minute.
kwiens 4y ago
New York's chapter amendment process is totally novel in my legislative experience, haven't come across it anywhere else. Gives the governor a lot of power.
- paws 4y ago
  Do you have links about this? I was extremely disappointed [1] when I learned about Hochul's last minute nerfing of right to repair and I'd be curious to learn more how the governors office acquired that power. IANAL but thought separation of powers was supposed to be guaranteed by the Constitutions, both US and NY. What happened? [1] https://twitter.com/onpaws/status/1618787954306211840 https://twitter.com/onpaws/status/1618787954306211840
  - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
    Lots of things are supposed to be guaranteed by various constitutions which, sadly, are not.
    - zamnos 4y ago
      In particular, the 14th amendment gives all persons born in the United States rights. Until they are born, fetuses have no rights.
icelancer 4y ago
"I don't think NY was any different - AFAIK the governor didn't "mess" with it (despite the reporting making it look that way); she just didn't sign it until the legislature revised it." Isn't this a distinction without a difference?
- kortilla 4y ago
  No, because the Colorado governor could do the same.
- dataflow 4y ago
  I think you might've missed the point of the discussion? We're comparing what powers the governor of each state has, with respect to signing legislation in general.

z3c0 4y ago

I was about to say the same. It appears the NY bill was ineffective from the jump and wouldn't have amounted to more than pageantry for the companies refusing to give such rights. It was a good thing that is was killed at the last minute.

kwiens 4y ago

New York's chapter amendment process is totally novel in my legislative experience, haven't come across it anywhere else. Gives the governor a lot of power.

paws 4y ago
Do you have links about this? I was extremely disappointed [1] when I learned about Hochul's last minute nerfing of right to repair and I'd be curious to learn more how the governors office acquired that power. IANAL but thought separation of powers was supposed to be guaranteed by the Constitutions, both US and NY. What happened? [1] https://twitter.com/onpaws/status/1618787954306211840 https://twitter.com/onpaws/status/1618787954306211840
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
  Lots of things are supposed to be guaranteed by various constitutions which, sadly, are not.
  - zamnos 4y ago
    In particular, the 14th amendment gives all persons born in the United States rights. Until they are born, fetuses have no rights.

icelancer 4y ago

"I don't think NY was any different - AFAIK the governor didn't "mess" with it (despite the reporting making it look that way); she just didn't sign it until the legislature revised it." Isn't this a distinction without a difference?

kortilla 4y ago
No, because the Colorado governor could do the same.
dataflow 4y ago
I think you might've missed the point of the discussion? We're comparing what powers the governor of each state has, with respect to signing legislation in general.