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Does the governor not need to sign it? Or has it been signed already? Because I wouldn't be celebrating yet until it's signed into law (if even then). NY's righ

Does the governor not need to sign it? Or has it been signed already? Because I wouldn't be celebrating yet until it's signed into law (if even then). NY's right to repair law was destroyed at the governor's desk at the 11th hour. [1] [1] https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/29/23530733/right-to-repair-law-new-york-tech-hochul-oems-parts https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/29/23530733/right-to-repair...

kwiens 4y ago
Governor Polis still needs to sign it, and you are right to be skeptical after New York. Two reasons to be optimistic: * In CO, the Governor can't mess with the bill like NY, only sign or veto it * Gov Polis is very good on tech issues, and has signalled to us (the coalition) that he will sign it
- dataflow 4y ago
  W.r.t. the first bullet point, I don't think NY was any different - AFAIK the governor didn't "mess" with it (despite the reporting making it look that way); she just didn't sign it until the legislature revised it. The second one is nice to hear though.
  - z3c0 4y ago
    I was about to say the same. It appears the NY bill was ineffective from the jump and wouldn't have amounted to more than pageantry for the companies refusing to give such rights. It was a good thing that is was killed at the last minute.
  - kwiens 4y ago
    New York's chapter amendment process is totally novel in my legislative experience, haven't come across it anywhere else. Gives the governor a lot of power.
    - paws 4y ago
      Do you have links about this? I was extremely disappointed [1] when I learned about Hochul's last minute nerfing of right to repair and I'd be curious to learn more how the governors office acquired that power. IANAL but thought separation of powers was supposed to be guaranteed by the Constitutions, both US and NY. What happened? [1] https://twitter.com/onpaws/status/1618787954306211840 https://twitter.com/onpaws/status/1618787954306211840
      - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
        Lots of things are supposed to be guaranteed by various constitutions which, sadly, are not.
        zamnos 4y ago
        In particular, the 14th amendment gives all persons born in the United States rights. Until they are born, fetuses have no rights.
  - icelancer 4y ago
    "I don't think NY was any different - AFAIK the governor didn't "mess" with it (despite the reporting making it look that way); she just didn't sign it until the legislature revised it." Isn't this a distinction without a difference?
    - kortilla 4y ago
      No, because the Colorado governor could do the same.
    - dataflow 4y ago
      I think you might've missed the point of the discussion? We're comparing what powers the governor of each state has, with respect to signing legislation in general.
- dataflow 3y ago
  Any idea when the governor is signing the bill? It seems like 6 of the 10 days have already passed and nothing has happened from the news I can find.
icelancer 4y ago
Gov. Polis is one of the most effective governors in the US overall (handled COVID-19 threats to disease and economic risk better than every governor, IMO) and someone who understands technology. He co-founded two tech companies and exited both for nine figures each time. My guess is that Polis likely helped shepard this bill along. EDIT: Gov. Polis also signed the first right to repair law for wheelchairs in 2022. https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2022/06/03/colorado-enacts-first-right-to-repair-law-but-only-for-wheelchairs https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/sta...

kwiens 4y ago

Governor Polis still needs to sign it, and you are right to be skeptical after New York. Two reasons to be optimistic: * In CO, the Governor can't mess with the bill like NY, only sign or veto it * Gov Polis is very good on tech issues, and has signalled to us (the coalition) that he will sign it

dataflow 4y ago
W.r.t. the first bullet point, I don't think NY was any different - AFAIK the governor didn't "mess" with it (despite the reporting making it look that way); she just didn't sign it until the legislature revised it. The second one is nice to hear though.
- z3c0 4y ago
  I was about to say the same. It appears the NY bill was ineffective from the jump and wouldn't have amounted to more than pageantry for the companies refusing to give such rights. It was a good thing that is was killed at the last minute.
- kwiens 4y ago
  New York's chapter amendment process is totally novel in my legislative experience, haven't come across it anywhere else. Gives the governor a lot of power.
  - paws 4y ago
    Do you have links about this? I was extremely disappointed [1] when I learned about Hochul's last minute nerfing of right to repair and I'd be curious to learn more how the governors office acquired that power. IANAL but thought separation of powers was supposed to be guaranteed by the Constitutions, both US and NY. What happened? [1] https://twitter.com/onpaws/status/1618787954306211840 https://twitter.com/onpaws/status/1618787954306211840
    - kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago
      Lots of things are supposed to be guaranteed by various constitutions which, sadly, are not.
      - zamnos 4y ago
        In particular, the 14th amendment gives all persons born in the United States rights. Until they are born, fetuses have no rights.
- icelancer 4y ago
  "I don't think NY was any different - AFAIK the governor didn't "mess" with it (despite the reporting making it look that way); she just didn't sign it until the legislature revised it." Isn't this a distinction without a difference?
  - kortilla 4y ago
    No, because the Colorado governor could do the same.
  - dataflow 4y ago
    I think you might've missed the point of the discussion? We're comparing what powers the governor of each state has, with respect to signing legislation in general.
dataflow 3y ago
Any idea when the governor is signing the bill? It seems like 6 of the 10 days have already passed and nothing has happened from the news I can find.

icelancer 4y ago

Gov. Polis is one of the most effective governors in the US overall (handled COVID-19 threats to disease and economic risk better than every governor, IMO) and someone who understands technology. He co-founded two tech companies and exited both for nine figures each time. My guess is that Polis likely helped shepard this bill along. EDIT: Gov. Polis also signed the first right to repair law for wheelchairs in 2022. https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2022/06/03/colorado-enacts-first-right-to-repair-law-but-only-for-wheelchairs https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/sta...