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Prior to the pandemic, when the universities were still allowing international students (and I believe they're about to reopen to international students again s
by Rodeoclash 3y ago
Prior to the pandemic, when the universities were still allowing international students (and I believe they're about to reopen to international students again soon) the anecdotes I was hearing from teachers was appalling. Pressure to pass students despite them being barely able to speak English, let alone know the subject matter.
The universities here in Australia have essentially transitioned to being businesses and failing students is bad for business. The incentives have become completely misaligned and short sighted.
Who I choose to interview and eventually hire now has no relationship to a computer science degree. Instead I'm looking at what you've actually achieved prior to the interview. If you're coming in for an entry level position, show me your group project. Show me you fumbling around in technologies that you don't really understand fully yet but have a genuine interest in. I want to see the homepage you created for your dads panel beating business, that alone tells me that you're curious enough about the industry to actually try (and succeed!) in creating something, even if it looks like a dogs breakfast.
I know others are thinking the same way when hiring and the universities have only themselves to blame for chasing short term profits over long term viability.
- pedalpete 3y agoThe floodgates of international students was opened last quarter, and is partially responsible for the huge increase in rental rates. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-04/international-students-resort-to-living-in-tents/102179212 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-04/international-student...
- hammyhavoc 3y agoUniversities in the UK don't seem much better, I hear similar regarding a lot of experiences. It seems like if you have a pulse then you get your piece of paper, even if you missed most of your seminars (which they are meant to kick you out over, but most don't). Education has become less about actually being educated and more paying the piper to get your piece of paper to assumedly stand out against other candidates for job positions, who likely also have the same sheet of paper anyway. Sure, for some professions, nothing much has changed, but for a lot, it's become a bit of a joke.
- osnium123 3y agoIs this true even for elite Australian universities like ANU?
- donavanm 3y agoYes. My partner is doing a phd at USYD and teaches undergrad chem & biology. A personal friend is a professor there. Every class has a very sizeable number of foreign students on a spectrum of dont-care-why-should-I to cant-follow-the-basics. This is not all foreign students, but many simply appear to be there for the tick box and residency it affords.
- TheLoafOfBread 3y agoPublic universities in Europe might not be high in rankings, but there is no incentive to force student through, because funding primarily goes from government not from student.
- Ekaros 3y agoActually the source might not matter. It is criteria of funding and it can be number of graduates or degrees awarded. So it makes sense for university to give out degrees so they can get money from government.