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The systemic racism people are going to go wild about this

by treis 4y ago

numeri 4y ago
I agree with you (although I think one should be upset about this, and you seemed to imply that you disagree with the "systemic racism people"). This would directly penalize endangered languages and dialects, which is a tragic loss for linguistic diversity. I think a lot of people hoped the WWW would connect these small and dwindling communities, and even help revitalize them, but policies like this sound actively harmful. If we're looking at it through the lens of systemic racism, it seems pretty straightforward as well – anyone who speaks a non-standard variant or dialect of their language will have less power to share their thoughts and ideas. They will also see less other people doing so, creating a feedback-loop discouraging the use of non-standard language.
- sieabahlpark 4y ago
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- imadierich 4y ago
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- optimiz3 4y ago
  > anyone who speaks a non-standard variant or dialect of their language will have less power to share their thoughts and ideas If a recipient doesn't speak the language, the speaker doesn't have much power in the first place. This is noise reduction.
totetsu 4y ago
It’s systematic Monolingualism. Which even though this is something that has a big negative impact on me and my particular life, I am willing to first attribute to ignorance before discrimination. It’s just easier to make a product that follows a one country one language pattern. And the numbers of multilingual people are in the minority.
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  > I am willing to first attribute to ignorance before discrimination I think ignorance is a fair answer for an individual like you and me. However when you are a giant organisation, the organisation can be evil without anyone individually being so. In organisation ignorance and evilness is really hard to distinguish, and easy to conflate on purpose. It is the job of the leadership to not be ignorant, or at least to hire someone who isn't. Thats why AI ethocs teams where the correct move.
- verbify 4y ago
  Most of the world is multilingual: https://www.linguisticsociety.org/resource/multilingualism https://www.linguisticsociety.org/resource/multilingualism Of course in the US this is not the case, and Twitter is a US based company that creates software used globally.
blitzar 4y ago
Headline can be: twitter shadowbans cultural appropriation - that should trigger everyone.

The systemic racism people are going to go wild about this

by treis 4y ago

The systemic racism people are going to go wild about this

I agree with you (although I think one should be upset about this, and you seemed to imply that you disagree with the "systemic racism people"). This would directly penalize endangered languages and dialects, which is a tragic loss for linguistic diversity. I think a lot of people hoped the WWW would connect these small and dwindling communities, and even help revitalize them, but policies like this sound actively harmful. If we're looking at it through the lens of systemic racism, it seems pretty straightforward as well – anyone who speaks a non-standard variant or dialect of their language will have less power to share their thoughts and ideas. They will also see less other people doing so, creating a feedback-loop discouraging the use of non-standard language.

sieabahlpark 4y ago
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imadierich 4y ago
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optimiz3 4y ago
> anyone who speaks a non-standard variant or dialect of their language will have less power to share their thoughts and ideas If a recipient doesn't speak the language, the speaker doesn't have much power in the first place. This is noise reduction.

totetsu 4y ago

It’s systematic Monolingualism. Which even though this is something that has a big negative impact on me and my particular life, I am willing to first attribute to ignorance before discrimination. It’s just easier to make a product that follows a one country one language pattern. And the numbers of multilingual people are in the minority.

ClumsyPilot 4y ago
> I am willing to first attribute to ignorance before discrimination I think ignorance is a fair answer for an individual like you and me. However when you are a giant organisation, the organisation can be evil without anyone individually being so. In organisation ignorance and evilness is really hard to distinguish, and easy to conflate on purpose. It is the job of the leadership to not be ignorant, or at least to hire someone who isn't. Thats why AI ethocs teams where the correct move.
verbify 4y ago
Most of the world is multilingual: https://www.linguisticsociety.org/resource/multilingualism https://www.linguisticsociety.org/resource/multilingualism Of course in the US this is not the case, and Twitter is a US based company that creates software used globally.

blitzar 4y ago

Headline can be: twitter shadowbans cultural appropriation - that should trigger everyone.