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Surprising things happen when you put 25 AI agents together in an RPG town

52 points by tpc3 3y ago

kristianp 3y ago
Much larger discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35517649 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35517649
monkeydreams 3y ago
The most surprising thing, someone worked out how to tilemap all the Modern Interior walls properly.
mattstudio 3y ago
Demo of the simulation can be found here: https://reverie.herokuapp.com/arXiv_Demo/ https://reverie.herokuapp.com/arXiv_Demo/
peterlk 3y ago
> In addition, they created an architecture that simulates minds with memories and experiences This sentence is doing a lot of heavy lifting. I’m excited to see what they actually did. Semantic search in past text? Some lossy encoding if past world state? Something else entirely? Also, I’m interested to hear what they’re doing with action spaces. It sounds like RL, so what’s the reward function?
- xsmasher 3y ago
  I understand that the "persistence" in GPT chats is just "feed the chat history back in before the new prompt." If that's true, the "history" feature here might just be "you are a grocer, here is your backstory, and here is your chat history, now GO."
alexitorg 3y ago
I like how they summarise the content history, I wonder if you could get the Large language model (LLM) like ChatGPT-4 to do the summarisation once the token window was full? I was thinking about how you could do something like this. Prime the LLM with description of the character and feed the dialogue back into it to generate realistic NPC dialogue. Have some logic behind it to update the chat log with events, perhaps quest prompts. Doable with the current price of$0.03/1k prompt tokens. Not sure you could do this on a triple A game with the dependency on an outside provider that might jack the prices and possible impossible to predict behaivour. But it might be fun in a small indi game? I wasn't anticipating the interaction between the NPCs. That would make it even more immersive. I am also curious how they got the output in chat-gpt to influence the NPCs movements and actions?
nigwil_ 3y ago
save a click: https://arxiv.org/abs/2304.03442 https://arxiv.org/abs/2304.03442
deafpolygon 3y ago
This gives me hope. I know when I'm old, I'll have some sort of a virtual AI environment to keep me occupied when my kids stop visiting and everyone I know is old or dead.
- antibasilisk 3y ago
  I would rather live the horrifying reality, instead of the matrix
- bemmu 3y ago
  It makes me uneasy to think I could have dementia and have forgotten all about these new developments, and interact with these without understanding they are AI.
  - deafpolygon 3y ago
    Yeah, that can be a bit unsettling. But, on the bright side, the important thing is that these developments can ease life for folks with dementia by learning their routines and their habits via AI. Then provide prompts for the elderly to allow them to live happily. These prompts can help you "remember" things without feeling lost or terrified. They can also provide them with a conversational partner without costing healthcare industry a lot of money. My fear is that I will develop dementia, Alzheimer's and feel alone and isolated. I'm honestly more afraid of being alone and feeling terrified than forgetting and living my remaining days out in relative peace and happiness.
    - xsmasher 3y ago
      I just listed to a podcast (Freakonomics M.D.) about the effect raising the minimum wage in nursing homes; paying more lead to better outcomes. One of the theories was that less turnover meant that the caregivers were more familiar with a particular patient and therefore more likely to notice when something changed. Someone coming in cold might not realize that "confused and incontinent" was not the normal state for this particular patient. An AI that chats with the patient every day could definitely notice changes. Of course it has dystopian overtones - it sounds a lot like the baseline test in Blade Runner 2049, or the reintegration droid for ex-imperials in Star Wars.
MagicMoonlight 3y ago
Give me this game already. I want rimworld with GPT characters. Why is nobody taking my money?

52 points by tpc3 3y ago

Much larger discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35517649 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35517649

monkeydreams 3y ago

The most surprising thing, someone worked out how to tilemap all the Modern Interior walls properly.

mattstudio 3y ago

Demo of the simulation can be found here: https://reverie.herokuapp.com/arXiv_Demo/ https://reverie.herokuapp.com/arXiv_Demo/

peterlk 3y ago

> In addition, they created an architecture that simulates minds with memories and experiences This sentence is doing a lot of heavy lifting. I’m excited to see what they actually did. Semantic search in past text? Some lossy encoding if past world state? Something else entirely? Also, I’m interested to hear what they’re doing with action spaces. It sounds like RL, so what’s the reward function?

xsmasher 3y ago
I understand that the "persistence" in GPT chats is just "feed the chat history back in before the new prompt." If that's true, the "history" feature here might just be "you are a grocer, here is your backstory, and here is your chat history, now GO."

alexitorg 3y ago

I like how they summarise the content history, I wonder if you could get the Large language model (LLM) like ChatGPT-4 to do the summarisation once the token window was full? I was thinking about how you could do something like this. Prime the LLM with description of the character and feed the dialogue back into it to generate realistic NPC dialogue. Have some logic behind it to update the chat log with events, perhaps quest prompts. Doable with the current price of$0.03/1k prompt tokens. Not sure you could do this on a triple A game with the dependency on an outside provider that might jack the prices and possible impossible to predict behaivour. But it might be fun in a small indi game? I wasn't anticipating the interaction between the NPCs. That would make it even more immersive. I am also curious how they got the output in chat-gpt to influence the NPCs movements and actions?

nigwil_ 3y ago

save a click: https://arxiv.org/abs/2304.03442 https://arxiv.org/abs/2304.03442

deafpolygon 3y ago

This gives me hope. I know when I'm old, I'll have some sort of a virtual AI environment to keep me occupied when my kids stop visiting and everyone I know is old or dead.

antibasilisk 3y ago
I would rather live the horrifying reality, instead of the matrix
bemmu 3y ago
It makes me uneasy to think I could have dementia and have forgotten all about these new developments, and interact with these without understanding they are AI.
- deafpolygon 3y ago
  Yeah, that can be a bit unsettling. But, on the bright side, the important thing is that these developments can ease life for folks with dementia by learning their routines and their habits via AI. Then provide prompts for the elderly to allow them to live happily. These prompts can help you "remember" things without feeling lost or terrified. They can also provide them with a conversational partner without costing healthcare industry a lot of money. My fear is that I will develop dementia, Alzheimer's and feel alone and isolated. I'm honestly more afraid of being alone and feeling terrified than forgetting and living my remaining days out in relative peace and happiness.
  - xsmasher 3y ago
    I just listed to a podcast (Freakonomics M.D.) about the effect raising the minimum wage in nursing homes; paying more lead to better outcomes. One of the theories was that less turnover meant that the caregivers were more familiar with a particular patient and therefore more likely to notice when something changed. Someone coming in cold might not realize that "confused and incontinent" was not the normal state for this particular patient. An AI that chats with the patient every day could definitely notice changes. Of course it has dystopian overtones - it sounds a lot like the baseline test in Blade Runner 2049, or the reintegration droid for ex-imperials in Star Wars.

MagicMoonlight 3y ago

Give me this game already. I want rimworld with GPT characters. Why is nobody taking my money?