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NFL just can't seem to figure it out. They're too deep into cable's pants to get out. Litreally eveyone wants an option to: 1. Stream one single game for a fix

NFL just can't seem to figure it out. They're too deep into cable's pants to get out. Litreally eveyone wants an option to: 1. Stream one single game for a fixed fee. You can make this price pretty high, like $100. 2. Buy the entire season online to a single named device. I'd probably pay $500 for all games for the entire season. But there could be absolutely zero blackouts for any reason. And I don't mind commercials actually... American Football has pretty funny ones usually. But anything less than these two options I'm out.

favorited 4y ago
> And I don't mind commercials actually... American Football has pretty funny ones usually. No commercial is funny the 50th time you see it, and NFL games air the same dozen State Farm, Geico, Taco Bell, & Corona Lite commercials all season. Half of them staring either Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers.
- exabrial 4y ago
  Whats wrong with Pat ? :)
BoiledCabbage 4y ago
> Litreally eveyone wants an option to: > 1. Stream one single game for a fixed fee. You can make this price pretty high, like $100. I'm really not certain what you're talking about. Are you asserting that the vast majority of people want to pay $100 to watch a single game of football?? That is so far from any mainstream view I don't even know where to begin. What is even the use case for this? I can't be someone who follows their home team because those games are pretty much broadcast for free on their local over the air tv. It can't be for someone who moved away and wants to catch up with their team because it would be $1700 just to watch the full regular season for their favorite team. So they'd buy the full season pass. Is it someone who is out of town for a single weekend and rather than find a sports bar would pay $100 to watch that one game? While possible that seems hard to believe there enough of a market for that. Who do you envision paying the $100 to see a single game live? Or am I completely misunderstanding you?
biaachmonkie 4y ago
Well if you can live with watching the games on delay and can wait a few hours NFL GamePass gets you all the games for ~$100 per season. I hate commercials and they strip them out of the full broadcast after a few hours, the initial upload includes them. And if you want to run through games quickly, they also have a condensed version of the games, the strips out all the dead time, so games are only ~40 minutes.
wanderingmoose 4y ago
I follow racing more than NFL, and I think Formula1 and Motogp have streaming figured out Formula1: $80 usd for the entire season. No stopping the race for ads, but they digitally insert ads in dead space on the screen. Access to the entire weekend -- pre/post shows, formula3, formula2, etc Watch races live. Camera choice during the live race -- the tv feed, helicopter shot, or onboard of any driver. All seasons of all past years (of current owners...but goes back ?30 years) of races. MotoGP: $150 usd for the entire season No cutaway from the race for ads. Access to the entire weekend -- pre/post shows, moto3, moto2 Watch races live Camera layout choice during raced -- one large screen, two screens, on large screen with 2 or 3 small screens underneath Choice of camera per screen in your layout -- tv feed, heli, onboards, timing sheets, track map w/ rider's positions overlaid on the track map All seasons of past years to current rights availability (all races back to ?1999, some select races back to 1992) BUT -- these are the prices for the USA market, which is pretty small. I wonder what the european cost or availability of the content is. Formula1 streaming is very recent as of the last ownership change. Motogp was streaming live races (with no ads) by 2005. The NFL is a weird situation. As people shifted away towards streaming, live sports remained as a place for premium ads, even though the market age of NFL fans is increasing (* as of some previous job related general entertainment market information...can't cite) NFL was just a part of growing up in the midwest. I've always enjoyed seeing games in-person. I really hope they can have a formula1 moment where they throw out the old regime and quickly adapt to modern viewing habits and interest. It feels like a Kodak moment.

favorited 4y ago

> And I don't mind commercials actually... American Football has pretty funny ones usually. No commercial is funny the 50th time you see it, and NFL games air the same dozen State Farm, Geico, Taco Bell, & Corona Lite commercials all season. Half of them staring either Patrick Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers.

exabrial 4y ago
Whats wrong with Pat ? :)

BoiledCabbage 4y ago

> Litreally eveyone wants an option to: > 1. Stream one single game for a fixed fee. You can make this price pretty high, like $100. I'm really not certain what you're talking about. Are you asserting that the vast majority of people want to pay $100 to watch a single game of football?? That is so far from any mainstream view I don't even know where to begin. What is even the use case for this? I can't be someone who follows their home team because those games are pretty much broadcast for free on their local over the air tv. It can't be for someone who moved away and wants to catch up with their team because it would be $1700 just to watch the full regular season for their favorite team. So they'd buy the full season pass. Is it someone who is out of town for a single weekend and rather than find a sports bar would pay $100 to watch that one game? While possible that seems hard to believe there enough of a market for that. Who do you envision paying the $100 to see a single game live? Or am I completely misunderstanding you?

biaachmonkie 4y ago

Well if you can live with watching the games on delay and can wait a few hours NFL GamePass gets you all the games for ~$100 per season. I hate commercials and they strip them out of the full broadcast after a few hours, the initial upload includes them. And if you want to run through games quickly, they also have a condensed version of the games, the strips out all the dead time, so games are only ~40 minutes.

wanderingmoose 4y ago

I follow racing more than NFL, and I think Formula1 and Motogp have streaming figured out Formula1: $80 usd for the entire season. No stopping the race for ads, but they digitally insert ads in dead space on the screen. Access to the entire weekend -- pre/post shows, formula3, formula2, etc Watch races live. Camera choice during the live race -- the tv feed, helicopter shot, or onboard of any driver. All seasons of all past years (of current owners...but goes back ?30 years) of races. MotoGP: $150 usd for the entire season No cutaway from the race for ads. Access to the entire weekend -- pre/post shows, moto3, moto2 Watch races live Camera layout choice during raced -- one large screen, two screens, on large screen with 2 or 3 small screens underneath Choice of camera per screen in your layout -- tv feed, heli, onboards, timing sheets, track map w/ rider's positions overlaid on the track map All seasons of past years to current rights availability (all races back to ?1999, some select races back to 1992) BUT -- these are the prices for the USA market, which is pretty small. I wonder what the european cost or availability of the content is. Formula1 streaming is very recent as of the last ownership change. Motogp was streaming live races (with no ads) by 2005. The NFL is a weird situation. As people shifted away towards streaming, live sports remained as a place for premium ads, even though the market age of NFL fans is increasing (* as of some previous job related general entertainment market information...can't cite) NFL was just a part of growing up in the midwest. I've always enjoyed seeing games in-person. I really hope they can have a formula1 moment where they throw out the old regime and quickly adapt to modern viewing habits and interest. It feels like a Kodak moment.