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uk was never a real member of eu, it entered the union with a lot of less strings attached, the only country to get such treatement. https://en.wikipedia.org/w

by kwere 4y ago

uk was never a real member of eu, it entered the union with a lot of less strings attached, the only country to get such treatement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_opt-outs_from_EU_legislation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_opt-outs_from_E...

timthorn 4y ago
The UK's opt outs were to rules brought in during its membership, not prior to it's accession to the (then) EEC.
dogma1138 4y ago
Really? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opt-outs_in_the_European_Union https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opt-outs_in_the_European_Uni...
- microtonal 4y ago
  Your linked page says that Britain had four opt-outs before they left the EU, more than any other country. At some point it even has five opt-outs. Not sure if they had opt-outs immediately when they joined the union (as the grandparent claims). But they were surely the member for which most exceptions were made. Some non-Brits were actually happy when Britain left the EU, since it removed a member that frequently blocked or slowed down integration. Not sure whether this is true though.
skissane 4y ago
The UK was not unique in having “opt-outs” from the EU-other countries have them too: Denmark has a formal opt-out from the Euro. Several other states (e.g. Sweden) have de facto opt-outs from the Euro - unlike Denmark, EU treaties say they have to join, but their governments have decided to ignore that legal obligation - without consequence, since the treaties failed to provide any enforcement mechanism for it Denmark and Ireland both have opt-outs from security and justice policies. Ireland’s opt-out permits it to opt-in on a case-by-case basis, Denmark’s doesn’t. Until it was abolished in a 2022 referendum, Denmark also had an opt-out from the EU’s military policy Poland has a partial opt-out from the EU’s human rights charter Ireland has an opt-out from Schengen (abolition of border controls). Romania, Bulgaria and Cyprus are parties to Schengen, but haven’t yet implemented it

by kwere 4y ago

timthorn 4y ago

The UK's opt outs were to rules brought in during its membership, not prior to it's accession to the (then) EEC.

dogma1138 4y ago

Really? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opt-outs_in_the_European_Union https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opt-outs_in_the_European_Uni...

microtonal 4y ago
Your linked page says that Britain had four opt-outs before they left the EU, more than any other country. At some point it even has five opt-outs. Not sure if they had opt-outs immediately when they joined the union (as the grandparent claims). But they were surely the member for which most exceptions were made. Some non-Brits were actually happy when Britain left the EU, since it removed a member that frequently blocked or slowed down integration. Not sure whether this is true though.

skissane 4y ago

The UK was not unique in having “opt-outs” from the EU-other countries have them too: Denmark has a formal opt-out from the Euro. Several other states (e.g. Sweden) have de facto opt-outs from the Euro - unlike Denmark, EU treaties say they have to join, but their governments have decided to ignore that legal obligation - without consequence, since the treaties failed to provide any enforcement mechanism for it Denmark and Ireland both have opt-outs from security and justice policies. Ireland’s opt-out permits it to opt-in on a case-by-case basis, Denmark’s doesn’t. Until it was abolished in a 2022 referendum, Denmark also had an opt-out from the EU’s military policy Poland has a partial opt-out from the EU’s human rights charter Ireland has an opt-out from Schengen (abolition of border controls). Romania, Bulgaria and Cyprus are parties to Schengen, but haven’t yet implemented it