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Interesting, I can walk down the street and I don't fear for my safety. I can leave my bike out overnight on my front porch. I don't worry about porch pirates

Interesting, I can walk down the street and I don't fear for my safety. I can leave my bike out overnight on my front porch. I don't worry about porch pirates or catalytic converter thefts. And the murder rate is effectively 0. I was liberal for a long time, then covid hit. Allow me to bask in the safety that is conservatism and a culture of personal responsibility.

all2 4y ago
Do you live in Montana?
- baremetal 4y ago
  I am within an hours drive from Montana.
hotpotamus 4y ago
My uncle lives in a super conservative/Trumpy town in Texas. He's a couple houses down from the local meth lab, and he's literally had his trash can stolen; basically anything that is not bolted down needs to be locked up, and they do have angle grinders, so those bolts aren't even a sure thing. A co-worker of mine lives in a different small Texas town and it's remarkable how I can compare stories of his to my uncle's (down to the meth lab). I'd say that personal responsibility means locking those things up in this case.
- baremetal 4y ago
  >He's a couple houses down from the local meth lab, Meth is $2000 a pound. No one makes it anymore. You can't even get the ingredients for that cheap. Nice made up story though. Not saying there isn't crime out in rural areas, but you can shoot thieves where I live, so its understandably not very common. I can't speak for Texas.
  - hotpotamus 4y ago
    True enough that I don't know about the economics of modern meth production, I'm just repeating what all the neighbors say. What I have seen with my own eyes is the constant stream of vehicle traffic that stops by for very short visits which seems consistent with distribution. I can also tell you that they are indeed a very gun-loving people, but that doesn't really seem to help with the poverty, crime, and drug use.
    - baremetal 4y ago
      >I can also tell you that they are indeed a very gun-loving people, but that doesn't really seem to help with the poverty, crime, and drug use. Indeed those are complex issues. The question is what are some good solutions. We know what doesn't work, both of the ways currently being tried. What I do know is I need to be able to ensure my own safety.

all2 4y ago

Do you live in Montana?

baremetal 4y ago
I am within an hours drive from Montana.

hotpotamus 4y ago

My uncle lives in a super conservative/Trumpy town in Texas. He's a couple houses down from the local meth lab, and he's literally had his trash can stolen; basically anything that is not bolted down needs to be locked up, and they do have angle grinders, so those bolts aren't even a sure thing. A co-worker of mine lives in a different small Texas town and it's remarkable how I can compare stories of his to my uncle's (down to the meth lab). I'd say that personal responsibility means locking those things up in this case.

baremetal 4y ago
>He's a couple houses down from the local meth lab, Meth is $2000 a pound. No one makes it anymore. You can't even get the ingredients for that cheap. Nice made up story though. Not saying there isn't crime out in rural areas, but you can shoot thieves where I live, so its understandably not very common. I can't speak for Texas.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  True enough that I don't know about the economics of modern meth production, I'm just repeating what all the neighbors say. What I have seen with my own eyes is the constant stream of vehicle traffic that stops by for very short visits which seems consistent with distribution. I can also tell you that they are indeed a very gun-loving people, but that doesn't really seem to help with the poverty, crime, and drug use.
  - baremetal 4y ago
    >I can also tell you that they are indeed a very gun-loving people, but that doesn't really seem to help with the poverty, crime, and drug use. Indeed those are complex issues. The question is what are some good solutions. We know what doesn't work, both of the ways currently being tried. What I do know is I need to be able to ensure my own safety.