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WordGrinder: Terminal-based distraction free word processor

143 points by sathishmanohar 4y ago

ape4 4y ago
Not to be confused with grindr.com
spccdt 4y ago
13 years old and still in “beta?” :-)
chankstein38 4y ago
So what actually is this? Reading through it, the description sounds like it's basically notepad? Why would I use this instead of notepad except for some sort of aesthetic of working in the terminal?
- cyberpunk 4y ago
  "WordGrinder needs the following packages installed: <...> - an OpenGL/GLFW development kit (if you want the OpenGL frontend). This is supplied with most systems." That's one hell of a terminal based word processor. I wonder why vim doesn't have an opengl frontend? >_<
  - rcarmo 4y ago
    That's just for console mode.
  - hk__2 4y ago
    You missed the "(if you want the OpenGL frontend)" part. It’s like using gvim instead of vim.
  - chankstein38 4y ago
    Right?! lol I know people pointed out it's a special front end but still like looking through the list of dependencies it's like "Isn't this just a page of text? Can't the console basically already do that?" haha
- unregistereddev 4y ago
  It supports more formatting than notepad does. The project link has a site that includes screenshots: http://cowlark.com/wordgrinder/screenshots.html http://cowlark.com/wordgrinder/screenshots.html My first thought was to compare this to MSDOS edit or *nix nano, but it has basic formatting that they lack. While I doubt I would ever use this for real work, I enjoy that it exists. Back when I was in college I used to pull the PCMCIA wifi card out of my laptop, put AbiWord in full screen mode, and write papers without distractions. It was a great way to write, and this tool seems like the terminal equivalent.
  - chankstein38 4y ago
    Thanks for the link to screenshots! This is what I wanted from the readme instead of the blocks of text. I don't actually need this I was just trying to give it a quick glance to see what the heck it was and what made it different. I just didn't have the time to keep digging.
- LeoPanthera 4y ago
  It’s a word processor. Notepad is a text editor. They are not the same thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_processor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_processor I think a lot of people have forgotten that “word processors” were originally mechanical devices, and then electrical and electronic devices, before ultimately becoming software.
  - themadturk 4y ago
    Having spent years in the legal industry, my first impulse is to say "word processors are people" but maybe that's just pedantic...
  - c-smile 4y ago
    It is not a word processor in common sense. Difference between Word Processor and text editor is in WYSIWYG mode of operation. At least for most of people. Like my Sciter.Notes (https://notes.sciter.com https://notes.sciter.com) has better chances to be named as Word Processor as its primary mode is WYSIWYG. It also supports WordGrinder alike mode (Markdown editing) so users can chose what mode is more suitable for particular document type.
    - themadturk 4y ago
      Word processors give control over page layout and text formatting, even if in pre-graphical days they didn't provide preview of that formatting in real time. Text editors don't give you any such control. There is a whole school of thought about separating the creation of content from the formatting of content. Some think modern word processors impose an expectation that the creator of content also needs to format that content. Modern word processors like Microsoft Word enforce this by applying default formatting and presentation settings to all documents, and in doing so reduce compatibility and increase file size. If you don't like Microsoft's defaults, you have to go through the effort of changing those defaults, and learn to create and save the default template unless you want to manually make changes every time you create a new document. None of this has anything to do with the creation of content, only with its appearance, which of course may be important to you. In non-WYSIWYG word processors, formatting and page layout are governed by configuration settings, embedded codes, etc. Files created in Word 5.0 weren't readable in WordPerfect 4.2, for example, unless conversion software was used. Text editors impose no formatting at all, unless you consider default character set and line endings "formatting." You can change the appearance on the screen if you want, but the file you create has no native font style, no character or paragraph formatting, and your choices of appearance make no difference if you open your file in another editor. You don't need a word processor to create your content; you can easily open your text file in Word or Pages to format the document as needed.
hmsp 4y ago
This is really cool. I write a lot of long text in him but find it not perfect for that task. This looks really amazing and I’m glad to know about it. I really like that it sticks to the CLI ethos of doing one thing very well. Thank you for your work.
bondarchuk 4y ago
Nice. There are also WriteRoom (mac) and DarkRoom (win), and on Linux PyRoom, whose website is defunct but which does have a wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PyRoom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PyRoom. I would just use nano or vim, but their disadvantage is that word wrap, and moving around between wrapped lines, don't work (by default) like you'd want from a plaintext editor.
- DC-3 4y ago
  Vim Pencil is a simple plugin that makes Vim a decent environment for writing. Plus Goyo for full minimalism.
  - deleted 4y ago
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- cesnja 4y ago
  There is zen-mode in emacs as well.
  - spudlyo 4y ago
    Not to mention olivetti mode[0] in Emacs. [0]: https://github.com/rnkn/olivetti https://github.com/rnkn/olivetti
  - teddyh 4y ago
    What “zen-mode” would that be? https://github.com/zenlang/zen-mode https://github.com/zenlang/zen-mode seems to be for the programming language called “Zen”.
- themodelplumber 4y ago
  Too bad the PyRoom site is down. I want to say I had shared some themes with that project a while back, but can't remember if they were full themes or just screenshots.
- noloblo 4y ago
  :set wrap would make it work in vim or neovim ?
rcarmo 4y ago
I like the fact that the file format is plaintext and actually includes an embedded dictionary -- it's a nice touch. Would prefer if it used Markdown instead, but conversion seems doable with a simple script. Edit: it's available on Fedora, FYI.
DiggyJohnson 4y ago
Genuinely awesome project - especially fit 'n finish. I have a happy place in my heart for this style of terminal app (TUI++). I hate to ask this, but do you have any plans for implementing modal editing or vi-style shortcuts? EDIT: I feel so guilty asking this question, that I realized that a second "Alternative Shortcut" field would go a long way for me as well. No expectation that this would be implemented, just sharing my thoughts. More importantly though: awesome project that I do plan on using for my personal writing project (nonfiction book) and at work.
taviso 4y ago
If you're looking for a more full-featured terminal word processor, you could take a look at wpunix! https://github.com/taviso/wpunix https://github.com/taviso/wpunix
- rpastuszak 4y ago
  If you’re looking for an even less-featured one, feel free to check out my stream of consciousness writing tool: https://enso.sonnet.io https://enso.sonnet.io - Not terminal but browser based though. - Prioritises writing over editing, thinking over second guessing, censoring yourself.
  - cssanchez 4y ago
    Wow what an elegant design. I tried the web version from mobile even after all the warnings and it wasn’t bad at all. I’m definitely trying out the desktop versions later.
    - rpastuszak 4y ago
      I took my iPad and a Bluetooth keyboard to try out Ensō during a hike and it worked fine. That is, until I forgot to switch off my keyboard once, put it in the backpack, and accidentally locked the device for a week!
      - DHPersonal 4y ago
        I think one can unlock a device locked by too many password guesses by plugging it into a computer that is connected to the same iCloud account, but perhaps that feature has been removed in recent security updates.
        rpastuszak 4y ago
        Correct, but I was a bit too far from home to get that done so did the next best thing: https://twitter.com/rafalpast/status/1422166755313659904?s=20 https://twitter.com/rafalpast/status/1422166755313659904?s=2...
artisanspam 4y ago
Would be nice to have some images in the README to see what makes this unique compared to alternatives. Thankfully, you can find them on the website in the sidebar.
- parasti 4y ago
  I thought so, too, but the README file is actually just a regular text file, like we used to have before Github.
rbanffy 4y ago
This reminded me of something I'd love to have - a physical text/graphics terminal with a full (at least as complete as the last DECs/Boundless units) implementation of ANSI codes, as well as a good, high-resolution implementation of Sixels, ReGIS, and Tektronix graphics, smooth scrolling (but now speed-adjusted - the more backlog, the faster it scrolls), as well as terminal-side windowing for multiple terminals (as the Blit family had).
- phire 4y ago
  I find it interesting that when we say terminal emulator these days, we are very explicitly referring to an informal standard that is (more or less) VT100 + color + mouse + Unicode.
  - rbanffy 4y ago
    Oh yes. This would be a board with an MCU, HDMI output and USB input for a keyboard and, perhaps, a mouse. Preferably a LK501 layout keyboard ;-)
amichail 4y ago
The scrolling is done in a distracting way though.
sasas 4y ago
Tavis Ormandy released some patches to get WordPerfect for UNIX (terminal based) to run on Linux [1] Alternatively, WordPerfect 6.2 for DOS running in Wine on Linux (or DOSbox) [2] This word processor was pretty serious back in the day. I have distant memories of sitting in class and learning it in at school in the early 90s. It’s interesting how we retain such inconsequential memories that can resurface with very specific triggers (such as seeing the screenshots of ASCII text of an ancient word processor). [1] https://lock.cmpxchg8b.com/wordperfect.html https://lock.cmpxchg8b.com/wordperfect.html [2] https://blog.cmpxchg8b.com/2020/09/finding-console-word-processor.html https://blog.cmpxchg8b.com/2020/09/finding-console-word-proc...
rkagerer 4y ago
The title reminded me of WordStar from my youth. In like grade 5 or so a friend and I got it into our heads to become reporters, conduct interviews around our school, and publish dot-matrix printed newsletters. "Just the facts, ma'am"
- tyingq 4y ago
  There's a clone called WordTsar that runs on Linux and Windows, MacOS (though lightly tested), etc. http://wordtsar.ca/ http://wordtsar.ca/
  - insane_dreamer 4y ago
    Gotta try this out. I used to have the WS commands burned into my brain, but it’s been decades now …
    - rkagerer 4y ago
      Home-Home-Up!
rocket_surgeron 4y ago
I'm looking at my word processor window on the second monitor right now and it is not distracting. https://i.imgur.com/E7Xj4Su.png https://i.imgur.com/E7Xj4Su.png Which word processors are distracting?
- lproven 4y ago
  I think the point is that a full-screen window that's largely empty of UI means that you don't see other windows, icons, toolbars etc. that are the potential sources of distraction. It's not that the WP is distracting. It's that the WP leaves other sources of distraction -- such as playing around with formatting, other apps and so on -- visible. A WP with little or no onscreen UI and which runs full screen so you can't see anything but the WP is trying to minimise visual distraction.
- eviks 4y ago
  The ones that get in your way!
  - lproven 4y ago
    I can aver that the UI of both Vi and Emacs are highly distracting to me, because I spend my time swearing at them trying to remember what mode I'm in, whether I'm editing text or accidentally invoking editor commands, trying to remember their ridiculous non-standard keystrokes for saving or cutting or pasting or whatever. Because they totally fail to follow the UI guidelines introduced in the early 1980s and adopted across almost all OSes by the start of the 1990s onwards, they are extremely distracting and constantly get in my way.
nerpderp82 4y ago
Looks excellent. I'll even give it a pass for using C (bonus points for Lua). Thanks! I want to take David Given's Master Class!
user3939382 4y ago
Does anyone use a typewriter for this purpose? Just to have a distraction free environment?
- themodelplumber 4y ago
  I use a Casio B.O.S.S. or other similar electronic diaries for this sometimes. I usually type in shorthand since the screens are small. I was going to pick up an Alphasmart a while back but felt guilty for how little it would be used, and ended up in Nano on my old MSI Wind... It's still amazing how much you can do with these devices. So I'll have a movie open, Falkon on the side, and several terminal sessions. Semi-distraction free since browsing is costly and the movie will be something I've seen before... For the regular desktop and distraction-free feel, I like to use Breeze for MS-DOS in DOSBox, or mcedit.
- wellthisisgreat 4y ago
  I got an e-ink typewriter (a Japanese device, with a 7" screen or something to that effect). It's cool in theory, but in practice it was easier to just use Selfcontrol (on Mac) and block everything, except the word processor. typing on normal keyboard with all the copy-paste etc. functionality is just so much better. An even more extreme variant I used was to create a separate user profile with just the word processor in it.
  - user3939382 4y ago
    New side project idea: OS that’s a word processor that runs in ring 0 on bare metal that you dual boot into :)
    - wellthisisgreat 4y ago
      That’s actually intriguing. At least to a fan of Selfcontrol / Coldturkey apps. Now just lock the other OS until I’ve hit a certain word count and I am already preparing my BIOS
syngrog66 4y ago
I've found vim best for distraction-free writing. Not a full word processor, true, but its easy enough as a separate step to copypaste text into a word processor doc when WYSIWYG formatting is desired. Or use something like a pandoc script to generate a PDF or ebook, when needed.
sva_ 4y ago
You mean vim?
deleted 4y ago
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teddyh 4y ago
Emacs has it built-in: M-x enriched-mode https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Enriched-Text.html https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/En...

ape4 4y ago

Not to be confused with grindr.com

spccdt 4y ago

13 years old and still in “beta?” :-)

chankstein38 4y ago

So what actually is this? Reading through it, the description sounds like it's basically notepad? Why would I use this instead of notepad except for some sort of aesthetic of working in the terminal?

cyberpunk 4y ago
"WordGrinder needs the following packages installed: <...> - an OpenGL/GLFW development kit (if you want the OpenGL frontend). This is supplied with most systems." That's one hell of a terminal based word processor. I wonder why vim doesn't have an opengl frontend? >_<
- rcarmo 4y ago
  That's just for console mode.
- hk__2 4y ago
  You missed the "(if you want the OpenGL frontend)" part. It’s like using gvim instead of vim.
- chankstein38 4y ago
  Right?! lol I know people pointed out it's a special front end but still like looking through the list of dependencies it's like "Isn't this just a page of text? Can't the console basically already do that?" haha
unregistereddev 4y ago
It supports more formatting than notepad does. The project link has a site that includes screenshots: http://cowlark.com/wordgrinder/screenshots.html http://cowlark.com/wordgrinder/screenshots.html My first thought was to compare this to MSDOS edit or *nix nano, but it has basic formatting that they lack. While I doubt I would ever use this for real work, I enjoy that it exists. Back when I was in college I used to pull the PCMCIA wifi card out of my laptop, put AbiWord in full screen mode, and write papers without distractions. It was a great way to write, and this tool seems like the terminal equivalent.
- chankstein38 4y ago
  Thanks for the link to screenshots! This is what I wanted from the readme instead of the blocks of text. I don't actually need this I was just trying to give it a quick glance to see what the heck it was and what made it different. I just didn't have the time to keep digging.
LeoPanthera 4y ago
It’s a word processor. Notepad is a text editor. They are not the same thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_processor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_processor I think a lot of people have forgotten that “word processors” were originally mechanical devices, and then electrical and electronic devices, before ultimately becoming software.
- themadturk 4y ago
  Having spent years in the legal industry, my first impulse is to say "word processors are people" but maybe that's just pedantic...
- c-smile 4y ago
  It is not a word processor in common sense. Difference between Word Processor and text editor is in WYSIWYG mode of operation. At least for most of people. Like my Sciter.Notes (https://notes.sciter.com https://notes.sciter.com) has better chances to be named as Word Processor as its primary mode is WYSIWYG. It also supports WordGrinder alike mode (Markdown editing) so users can chose what mode is more suitable for particular document type.
  - themadturk 4y ago
    Word processors give control over page layout and text formatting, even if in pre-graphical days they didn't provide preview of that formatting in real time. Text editors don't give you any such control. There is a whole school of thought about separating the creation of content from the formatting of content. Some think modern word processors impose an expectation that the creator of content also needs to format that content. Modern word processors like Microsoft Word enforce this by applying default formatting and presentation settings to all documents, and in doing so reduce compatibility and increase file size. If you don't like Microsoft's defaults, you have to go through the effort of changing those defaults, and learn to create and save the default template unless you want to manually make changes every time you create a new document. None of this has anything to do with the creation of content, only with its appearance, which of course may be important to you. In non-WYSIWYG word processors, formatting and page layout are governed by configuration settings, embedded codes, etc. Files created in Word 5.0 weren't readable in WordPerfect 4.2, for example, unless conversion software was used. Text editors impose no formatting at all, unless you consider default character set and line endings "formatting." You can change the appearance on the screen if you want, but the file you create has no native font style, no character or paragraph formatting, and your choices of appearance make no difference if you open your file in another editor. You don't need a word processor to create your content; you can easily open your text file in Word or Pages to format the document as needed.

hmsp 4y ago

This is really cool. I write a lot of long text in him but find it not perfect for that task. This looks really amazing and I’m glad to know about it. I really like that it sticks to the CLI ethos of doing one thing very well. Thank you for your work.

bondarchuk 4y ago

Nice. There are also WriteRoom (mac) and DarkRoom (win), and on Linux PyRoom, whose website is defunct but which does have a wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PyRoom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PyRoom. I would just use nano or vim, but their disadvantage is that word wrap, and moving around between wrapped lines, don't work (by default) like you'd want from a plaintext editor.

DC-3 4y ago
Vim Pencil is a simple plugin that makes Vim a decent environment for writing. Plus Goyo for full minimalism.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
cesnja 4y ago
There is zen-mode in emacs as well.
- spudlyo 4y ago
  Not to mention olivetti mode[0] in Emacs. [0]: https://github.com/rnkn/olivetti https://github.com/rnkn/olivetti
- teddyh 4y ago
  What “zen-mode” would that be? https://github.com/zenlang/zen-mode https://github.com/zenlang/zen-mode seems to be for the programming language called “Zen”.
themodelplumber 4y ago
Too bad the PyRoom site is down. I want to say I had shared some themes with that project a while back, but can't remember if they were full themes or just screenshots.
noloblo 4y ago
:set wrap would make it work in vim or neovim ?

rcarmo 4y ago

I like the fact that the file format is plaintext and actually includes an embedded dictionary -- it's a nice touch. Would prefer if it used Markdown instead, but conversion seems doable with a simple script. Edit: it's available on Fedora, FYI.

DiggyJohnson 4y ago

Genuinely awesome project - especially fit 'n finish. I have a happy place in my heart for this style of terminal app (TUI++). I hate to ask this, but do you have any plans for implementing modal editing or vi-style shortcuts? EDIT: I feel so guilty asking this question, that I realized that a second "Alternative Shortcut" field would go a long way for me as well. No expectation that this would be implemented, just sharing my thoughts. More importantly though: awesome project that I do plan on using for my personal writing project (nonfiction book) and at work.

taviso 4y ago

If you're looking for a more full-featured terminal word processor, you could take a look at wpunix! https://github.com/taviso/wpunix https://github.com/taviso/wpunix

rpastuszak 4y ago
If you’re looking for an even less-featured one, feel free to check out my stream of consciousness writing tool: https://enso.sonnet.io https://enso.sonnet.io - Not terminal but browser based though. - Prioritises writing over editing, thinking over second guessing, censoring yourself.
- cssanchez 4y ago
  Wow what an elegant design. I tried the web version from mobile even after all the warnings and it wasn’t bad at all. I’m definitely trying out the desktop versions later.
  - rpastuszak 4y ago
    I took my iPad and a Bluetooth keyboard to try out Ensō during a hike and it worked fine. That is, until I forgot to switch off my keyboard once, put it in the backpack, and accidentally locked the device for a week!
    - DHPersonal 4y ago
      I think one can unlock a device locked by too many password guesses by plugging it into a computer that is connected to the same iCloud account, but perhaps that feature has been removed in recent security updates.
      - rpastuszak 4y ago
        Correct, but I was a bit too far from home to get that done so did the next best thing: https://twitter.com/rafalpast/status/1422166755313659904?s=20 https://twitter.com/rafalpast/status/1422166755313659904?s=2...

artisanspam 4y ago

Would be nice to have some images in the README to see what makes this unique compared to alternatives. Thankfully, you can find them on the website in the sidebar.

parasti 4y ago
I thought so, too, but the README file is actually just a regular text file, like we used to have before Github.

rbanffy 4y ago

This reminded me of something I'd love to have - a physical text/graphics terminal with a full (at least as complete as the last DECs/Boundless units) implementation of ANSI codes, as well as a good, high-resolution implementation of Sixels, ReGIS, and Tektronix graphics, smooth scrolling (but now speed-adjusted - the more backlog, the faster it scrolls), as well as terminal-side windowing for multiple terminals (as the Blit family had).

phire 4y ago
I find it interesting that when we say terminal emulator these days, we are very explicitly referring to an informal standard that is (more or less) VT100 + color + mouse + Unicode.
- rbanffy 4y ago
  Oh yes. This would be a board with an MCU, HDMI output and USB input for a keyboard and, perhaps, a mouse. Preferably a LK501 layout keyboard ;-)

amichail 4y ago

The scrolling is done in a distracting way though.

sasas 4y ago

Tavis Ormandy released some patches to get WordPerfect for UNIX (terminal based) to run on Linux [1] Alternatively, WordPerfect 6.2 for DOS running in Wine on Linux (or DOSbox) [2] This word processor was pretty serious back in the day. I have distant memories of sitting in class and learning it in at school in the early 90s. It’s interesting how we retain such inconsequential memories that can resurface with very specific triggers (such as seeing the screenshots of ASCII text of an ancient word processor). [1] https://lock.cmpxchg8b.com/wordperfect.html https://lock.cmpxchg8b.com/wordperfect.html [2] https://blog.cmpxchg8b.com/2020/09/finding-console-word-processor.html https://blog.cmpxchg8b.com/2020/09/finding-console-word-proc...

rkagerer 4y ago

The title reminded me of WordStar from my youth. In like grade 5 or so a friend and I got it into our heads to become reporters, conduct interviews around our school, and publish dot-matrix printed newsletters. "Just the facts, ma'am"

tyingq 4y ago
There's a clone called WordTsar that runs on Linux and Windows, MacOS (though lightly tested), etc. http://wordtsar.ca/ http://wordtsar.ca/
- insane_dreamer 4y ago
  Gotta try this out. I used to have the WS commands burned into my brain, but it’s been decades now …
  - rkagerer 4y ago
    Home-Home-Up!

rocket_surgeron 4y ago

I'm looking at my word processor window on the second monitor right now and it is not distracting. https://i.imgur.com/E7Xj4Su.png https://i.imgur.com/E7Xj4Su.png Which word processors are distracting?

lproven 4y ago
I think the point is that a full-screen window that's largely empty of UI means that you don't see other windows, icons, toolbars etc. that are the potential sources of distraction. It's not that the WP is distracting. It's that the WP leaves other sources of distraction -- such as playing around with formatting, other apps and so on -- visible. A WP with little or no onscreen UI and which runs full screen so you can't see anything but the WP is trying to minimise visual distraction.
eviks 4y ago
The ones that get in your way!
- lproven 4y ago
  I can aver that the UI of both Vi and Emacs are highly distracting to me, because I spend my time swearing at them trying to remember what mode I'm in, whether I'm editing text or accidentally invoking editor commands, trying to remember their ridiculous non-standard keystrokes for saving or cutting or pasting or whatever. Because they totally fail to follow the UI guidelines introduced in the early 1980s and adopted across almost all OSes by the start of the 1990s onwards, they are extremely distracting and constantly get in my way.

nerpderp82 4y ago

Looks excellent. I'll even give it a pass for using C (bonus points for Lua). Thanks! I want to take David Given's Master Class!

user3939382 4y ago

Does anyone use a typewriter for this purpose? Just to have a distraction free environment?

themodelplumber 4y ago
I use a Casio B.O.S.S. or other similar electronic diaries for this sometimes. I usually type in shorthand since the screens are small. I was going to pick up an Alphasmart a while back but felt guilty for how little it would be used, and ended up in Nano on my old MSI Wind... It's still amazing how much you can do with these devices. So I'll have a movie open, Falkon on the side, and several terminal sessions. Semi-distraction free since browsing is costly and the movie will be something I've seen before... For the regular desktop and distraction-free feel, I like to use Breeze for MS-DOS in DOSBox, or mcedit.
wellthisisgreat 4y ago
I got an e-ink typewriter (a Japanese device, with a 7" screen or something to that effect). It's cool in theory, but in practice it was easier to just use Selfcontrol (on Mac) and block everything, except the word processor. typing on normal keyboard with all the copy-paste etc. functionality is just so much better. An even more extreme variant I used was to create a separate user profile with just the word processor in it.
- user3939382 4y ago
  New side project idea: OS that’s a word processor that runs in ring 0 on bare metal that you dual boot into :)
  - wellthisisgreat 4y ago
    That’s actually intriguing. At least to a fan of Selfcontrol / Coldturkey apps. Now just lock the other OS until I’ve hit a certain word count and I am already preparing my BIOS

syngrog66 4y ago

I've found vim best for distraction-free writing. Not a full word processor, true, but its easy enough as a separate step to copypaste text into a word processor doc when WYSIWYG formatting is desired. Or use something like a pandoc script to generate a PDF or ebook, when needed.

sva_ 4y ago

You mean vim?

deleted 4y ago

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teddyh 4y ago

Emacs has it built-in: M-x enriched-mode https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Enriched-Text.html https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/En...