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There is zero chance the manufacturing environment can move that fast. I know I work in it. The government can place all the magic words on the page they want

There is zero chance the manufacturing environment can move that fast. I know I work in it. The government can place all the magic words on the page they want, there are structural limits to how fast mines, plants, and other things can be built, even if Ford, GM, VW etc can switch their factories to EV's there is an entire supply chain that can not spin up that fast. Copper and Lithium production alone would need to increase by like 900%, that is not happening in just a few years time.

bryanlarsen 4y ago
So you're saying that production capacity of electric cars is going to slow down their growth? EV production capacity increased by ~5 million per annum last year (4 million of that in China). Current rate of production growth means 60% EV's in 2027.
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r00fus 4y ago
How the hell did the US (or Germany for that matter) accomplish what they did in WW2? If we treated the coming climate catastrophe as an actual crisis and waged war on carbon emissions, I'm sure as hell we could outdo what was done 80+ years ago. The problem is that now we have to coddle the corporate elite who need to make guaranteed profits. And that takes time. Hope we have enough left.
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  >How the hell did the US (or Germany for that matter) accomplish what they did in WW2? By repurposing the vast majority of manifacturing cpacity to the war effrot >>If we treated the coming climate catastrophe as an actual crisis and waged war on carbon emissions, because one even if the US Dropped emissions to Zero it would have little impact, and two you are talking about a generational problem not a problem today. Most people disagree over the urgency of the problem, in part because have have had decades and decades of people saying we will all die in 10 years if we do not act now... 10 years later we are all still here
  - r00fus 4y ago
    That’s ok, the US is only the biggest economy in the world. Of course we can’t do it on our own but we can lead the way - or we can get lapped by China who has already begun and made significant progress in all the areas we should also be doing: solar installments, EVs, fast mass transit. It’s no surprise the rest of the world is starting to look to China for leadership instead of us.

bryanlarsen 4y ago

So you're saying that production capacity of electric cars is going to slow down their growth? EV production capacity increased by ~5 million per annum last year (4 million of that in China). Current rate of production growth means 60% EV's in 2027.

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r00fus 4y ago

How the hell did the US (or Germany for that matter) accomplish what they did in WW2? If we treated the coming climate catastrophe as an actual crisis and waged war on carbon emissions, I'm sure as hell we could outdo what was done 80+ years ago. The problem is that now we have to coddle the corporate elite who need to make guaranteed profits. And that takes time. Hope we have enough left.

phpisthebest 4y ago
>How the hell did the US (or Germany for that matter) accomplish what they did in WW2? By repurposing the vast majority of manifacturing cpacity to the war effrot >>If we treated the coming climate catastrophe as an actual crisis and waged war on carbon emissions, because one even if the US Dropped emissions to Zero it would have little impact, and two you are talking about a generational problem not a problem today. Most people disagree over the urgency of the problem, in part because have have had decades and decades of people saying we will all die in 10 years if we do not act now... 10 years later we are all still here
- r00fus 4y ago
  That’s ok, the US is only the biggest economy in the world. Of course we can’t do it on our own but we can lead the way - or we can get lapped by China who has already begun and made significant progress in all the areas we should also be doing: solar installments, EVs, fast mass transit. It’s no surprise the rest of the world is starting to look to China for leadership instead of us.