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Looking at Notes, I get why Elon is so mad about it. They totally ripped off the Twitter UI. I follow Ed Zitron's Substack, and he is also a prolific Tweeter.

Looking at Notes, I get why Elon is so mad about it. They totally ripped off the Twitter UI. I follow Ed Zitron's Substack, and he is also a prolific Tweeter. He seems to be using Notes the same way he uses Twitter, for shitposting. I'm not sure that's really in line with the tone of Substack.

jacquesm 3y ago
> they totally ripped off the Twitter UI I wasn't aware of any IP protection of Twitter's UI, which in one form or another has been done 100's of times.
- kritiko 3y ago
  I didn't claim there was IP infringement. IG & lots of other companies stole the stories format from Snap. Makes it easier for users who recognize the ui, but it's still got to be galling.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    Why? It's just a UI for something where there aren't many alternative ways to present it. Timeline, follower, following. That's it. The rest is styling and that is even less relevant.
  - jjulius 3y ago
    >IG & lots of other companies stole the stores from Snap. I've been saying it since Twitter launched, but Twitter was/is just some folks stealing Facebook's status update.
    - pests 3y ago
      I remember both MySpace and Facebook status updates actually being a copy of Twitter style updates. I don't think Facebook even had status updates as we know it today when Twitter released.
seydor 3y ago
And it s not like twitter has some kind of optimal design. The heart button in the middle is bad for my fingers! the left sidebar is useless and search sucks. Both of these services should try to make good work instead of copying each other I actually thought that a newsfeed would be a good fit for substack, but looking at this i dont think i m going to use it. It should be simpler, a timeline of things i ve subscribed, with some threaded, sane comments. The medium shapes the message, and twitter's medium is just not a good fit for substack's message
dvzk 3y ago
GitLab initially copied GitHub’s UI, virtually identically, and the CEO advertised GitLab in every thread that involved GH for over a year. It didn’t seem that many people on HN cared, because GitLab was “open source” and ethics didn’t apply.
m3kw9 3y ago
Why would you use this twitter clone when the original has way more interesting content?

jacquesm 3y ago

> they totally ripped off the Twitter UI I wasn't aware of any IP protection of Twitter's UI, which in one form or another has been done 100's of times.

kritiko 3y ago
I didn't claim there was IP infringement. IG & lots of other companies stole the stories format from Snap. Makes it easier for users who recognize the ui, but it's still got to be galling.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  Why? It's just a UI for something where there aren't many alternative ways to present it. Timeline, follower, following. That's it. The rest is styling and that is even less relevant.
- jjulius 3y ago
  >IG & lots of other companies stole the stores from Snap. I've been saying it since Twitter launched, but Twitter was/is just some folks stealing Facebook's status update.
  - pests 3y ago
    I remember both MySpace and Facebook status updates actually being a copy of Twitter style updates. I don't think Facebook even had status updates as we know it today when Twitter released.

seydor 3y ago

And it s not like twitter has some kind of optimal design. The heart button in the middle is bad for my fingers! the left sidebar is useless and search sucks. Both of these services should try to make good work instead of copying each other I actually thought that a newsfeed would be a good fit for substack, but looking at this i dont think i m going to use it. It should be simpler, a timeline of things i ve subscribed, with some threaded, sane comments. The medium shapes the message, and twitter's medium is just not a good fit for substack's message

dvzk 3y ago

GitLab initially copied GitHub’s UI, virtually identically, and the CEO advertised GitLab in every thread that involved GH for over a year. It didn’t seem that many people on HN cared, because GitLab was “open source” and ethics didn’t apply.

m3kw9 3y ago

Why would you use this twitter clone when the original has way more interesting content?