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That would be a bad idea. Skipping town on a sentence puts one in a rarified category where enforcement is now a federal problem, and the FBI has long memories

That would be a bad idea. Skipping town on a sentence puts one in a rarified category where enforcement is now a federal problem, and the FBI has long memories, an international reach, and no statute of limitations on how long they can hunt a person who is sentenced. At which point, if they fall back under US custody, they get to start their sentence (as well as go on trial for the additional penalties associated with fleeing custody). I'm aware of one case where for a suspect in a murder, the FBI put together a yacht party in a foreign country, got the target on the ship, sailed it out to international waters, and took them into custody at that point. I'm loathe to see what ends they'd go to to apprehend someone with a sentence hanging over them.

cale- 4y ago
That case sounds interesting, but I couldn't find anything on a cursory google. Can you provide some more details? Thanks
- shadowgovt 4y ago
  It was passed to me orally by an FBI trainer at Quantico during a visit once; I have no primary source other than that.
- 23B1 4y ago
  Might be the Fawaz Younis thing: https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/fawaz-younis https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/fawaz-younis
dragonwriter 4y ago
> Skipping town on a sentence puts one in a rarified category where enforcement is now a federal problem Enforcement of federal crimes like those Holmes was charged with is federal to start with. Skipping sentence makes it a US Marshals’ problem, though. > I’m aware of one case where for a suspect in a murder, the FBI put together a yacht party in a foreign country, got the target on the ship, sailed it out to international waters, and took them into custody at that point. Federal law enforcement has straight up hired people to kidnap a suspect from a country with which we have an extradition treaty; your example is hardly extreme. (And I’m talking about before the War on Terror.) Though the best example of that is the DEA, not the FBI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Alvarez-Machain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Alvarez-Macha...
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jjulius 4y ago
>That would be a bad idea. And one she's certainly (allegedly?) entertained in the past ~year[0]. >As evidence of what they described as her “attempt to flee the country shortly after she was convicted,” prosecutors highlighted the plane ticket Holmes had booked for Jan. 26, 2022, without any scheduled return date. >They complained to her defense team that she hadn’t notified them or the court about the trip, which violated her bail conditions... [0]https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/elizabeth-holmes-flee-mexico https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/elizabeth-hol...
BearOso 4y ago
I dunno. This woman was so afraid of being imprisoned that she got herself pregnant twice. And others have mentioned the airplane tickets that were found before sentencing. I believe she'll try anything to get out of it.

cale- 4y ago

That case sounds interesting, but I couldn't find anything on a cursory google. Can you provide some more details? Thanks

shadowgovt 4y ago
It was passed to me orally by an FBI trainer at Quantico during a visit once; I have no primary source other than that.
23B1 4y ago
Might be the Fawaz Younis thing: https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/fawaz-younis https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/fawaz-younis

dragonwriter 4y ago

> Skipping town on a sentence puts one in a rarified category where enforcement is now a federal problem Enforcement of federal crimes like those Holmes was charged with is federal to start with. Skipping sentence makes it a US Marshals’ problem, though. > I’m aware of one case where for a suspect in a murder, the FBI put together a yacht party in a foreign country, got the target on the ship, sailed it out to international waters, and took them into custody at that point. Federal law enforcement has straight up hired people to kidnap a suspect from a country with which we have an extradition treaty; your example is hardly extreme. (And I’m talking about before the War on Terror.) Though the best example of that is the DEA, not the FBI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Alvarez-Machain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Alvarez-Macha...

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jjulius 4y ago

>That would be a bad idea. And one she's certainly (allegedly?) entertained in the past ~year[0]. >As evidence of what they described as her “attempt to flee the country shortly after she was convicted,” prosecutors highlighted the plane ticket Holmes had booked for Jan. 26, 2022, without any scheduled return date. >They complained to her defense team that she hadn’t notified them or the court about the trip, which violated her bail conditions... [0]https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/elizabeth-holmes-flee-mexico https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/elizabeth-hol...

BearOso 4y ago

I dunno. This woman was so afraid of being imprisoned that she got herself pregnant twice. And others have mentioned the airplane tickets that were found before sentencing. I believe she'll try anything to get out of it.