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The FSF is a public organization with a mission to change the world. That's literally the purpose of its existence, not to be Stallman's group of friends. Also

The FSF is a public organization with a mission to change the world. That's literally the purpose of its existence, not to be Stallman's group of friends. Also every day it fails to be effective makes fulfilling its mission harder, because the rest of the world doesn't wait for it to catch up. Sure, we can recognize that Stallman had very significant achievements that merit recognition, and accept that not everyone can keep on producing amazing work until they keel over. But that's in the context that's outside of being an active leader. That he did a good job before doesn't mean there's not a job now that still needs doing well.

amno 4y ago
> not to be Stallman's group of friends Nobody said that, either. > That he did a good job before doesn't mean there's not a job now that still needs doing well. And you personally know he can't help doing this job further on, and he is on his own entire board in FSF? You are free to nominate and show the world what you can do!
- dale_glass 4y ago
  > Nobody said that, either. I was referencing your "Do you wish your family and friends to turn back on you" part. > And you personally know he can't help doing this job further on, and he is on his own entire board in FSF? It looks to me like he's got an outsized influence in the FSF and even if he might be a board member among 7. But that is a good point, it may be the case that the problem is bigger than just Stallman. > You are free to nominate and show the world what you can do! I'm not an US citizen nor have any interest in being one, employed full time, and on a non-profit already, so my agenda is full. That said given how things have gone the last few decades, I do think I could do a better job at this point. I don't doubt there are people far better suited than I, but I'm pretty confident I could do better than the current state.

amno 4y ago

> not to be Stallman's group of friends Nobody said that, either. > That he did a good job before doesn't mean there's not a job now that still needs doing well. And you personally know he can't help doing this job further on, and he is on his own entire board in FSF? You are free to nominate and show the world what you can do!

dale_glass 4y ago
> Nobody said that, either. I was referencing your "Do you wish your family and friends to turn back on you" part. > And you personally know he can't help doing this job further on, and he is on his own entire board in FSF? It looks to me like he's got an outsized influence in the FSF and even if he might be a board member among 7. But that is a good point, it may be the case that the problem is bigger than just Stallman. > You are free to nominate and show the world what you can do! I'm not an US citizen nor have any interest in being one, employed full time, and on a non-profit already, so my agenda is full. That said given how things have gone the last few decades, I do think I could do a better job at this point. I don't doubt there are people far better suited than I, but I'm pretty confident I could do better than the current state.