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> astroturfed to hell and back ...which is still less astroturfed than news (of any kind), google results, review sites, and so on. It's one of the only places

> astroturfed to hell and back ...which is still less astroturfed than news (of any kind), google results, review sites, and so on. It's one of the only places left on the entire internet where you can find real users talking about real problems with real products. It's really easy to complain if you don't force yourself to identify a better alternative.

brucethemoose2 4y ago
Useful niche sites still exist (like HN, I would argue). But if you can't find the niche you are looking for... yeah, you are doomed.
Teever 4y ago
This is incredibly dismissive. That's like saying if your house is on fire and don't have a place to go to you might as well continue hang out while your house burns around you. Even if you can't provide solutions or alternatives to a problem it's important to acknowledge the problem. "Knowing where the trap is—that's the first step in evading it."
- jjoonathan 4y ago
  "Outside the house" is a straightforward better alternative to the inside of a burning house. > This is incredibly dismissive. I wish I could make it even more so. Over and over, I have seen people throw away the best solution they had because they ruminated on its shortcomings without actually finding or building something better. Tearing is easy, building is hard. They toss away what they have, the situation fails to fix itself (why would it?) and instead gets even worse.
  - Teever 4y ago
    It's a social media website. There's no cost to the users to switch away, we saw that with the Digg migration. And Reddit has been top dog in this kind of social media for at least a decade, we aren't talking about jumping ship on out of whimsy, maybe it's time for Reddit to die? Like, honestly, who gives a shit about conde naste's social media site?
    - jjoonathan 4y ago
      What was better than slashdot? HN. What was better than Digg? Reddit. What is better than Reddit? ------------------------ Believe me, I really wish you had an answer, but I don't think you do.
      - transcriptase 4y ago
        HN would be if we could clone @dang 1000 times and make some sub-HNs.
      - Teever 4y ago
        My friends and I have been pretty satisfied with the federated matrix server that I've been running for several years now. I imagine that the future of social media will look something like that and mastodon. Small silos of people connected through an adhoc trust network seems to be a pretty good mitigation strategy for the issues of AI generated spam. we sure don't see any corporate spam in our rooms.
voz_ 4y ago
My better alternative is touching grass.

brucethemoose2 4y ago

Useful niche sites still exist (like HN, I would argue). But if you can't find the niche you are looking for... yeah, you are doomed.

Teever 4y ago

This is incredibly dismissive. That's like saying if your house is on fire and don't have a place to go to you might as well continue hang out while your house burns around you. Even if you can't provide solutions or alternatives to a problem it's important to acknowledge the problem. "Knowing where the trap is—that's the first step in evading it."

jjoonathan 4y ago
"Outside the house" is a straightforward better alternative to the inside of a burning house. > This is incredibly dismissive. I wish I could make it even more so. Over and over, I have seen people throw away the best solution they had because they ruminated on its shortcomings without actually finding or building something better. Tearing is easy, building is hard. They toss away what they have, the situation fails to fix itself (why would it?) and instead gets even worse.
- Teever 4y ago
  It's a social media website. There's no cost to the users to switch away, we saw that with the Digg migration. And Reddit has been top dog in this kind of social media for at least a decade, we aren't talking about jumping ship on out of whimsy, maybe it's time for Reddit to die? Like, honestly, who gives a shit about conde naste's social media site?
  - jjoonathan 4y ago
    What was better than slashdot? HN. What was better than Digg? Reddit. What is better than Reddit? ------------------------ Believe me, I really wish you had an answer, but I don't think you do.
    - transcriptase 4y ago
      HN would be if we could clone @dang 1000 times and make some sub-HNs.
    - Teever 4y ago
      My friends and I have been pretty satisfied with the federated matrix server that I've been running for several years now. I imagine that the future of social media will look something like that and mastodon. Small silos of people connected through an adhoc trust network seems to be a pretty good mitigation strategy for the issues of AI generated spam. we sure don't see any corporate spam in our rooms.

voz_ 4y ago

My better alternative is touching grass.