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> This attitudes extends to so many different areas, especially in technology, where hostility to good taste and style is often seen as something to be lauded,
by kitsunesoba 4y ago
> This attitudes extends to so many different areas, especially in technology, where hostility to good taste and style is often seen as something to be lauded, with the idea that somehow, technical brilliance and design chops are inversely correlated and can’t co-exist.
There's a fair chance I've misread the situation, but I don't think it's good taste and style is what's being pushed back against in these situations. It's all of the other things that so often get bundled with glossy UI — aesthetics-above-all-else design, UI as branding, gratuitous amounts of badly written analytics JS added by non-engineers, NIH syndrome, trend chasing, etc.
Most people I think aren't opposed to well designed UI that incorporates a central tenet of Jobs', which is that design is functionality and not purely visual, but this is staggeringly unusual to the point that something idiosyncratic but simplistic (like the HN UI) is a safer bet.
- chrisweekly 4y agoGood points. Nit / correction (for helpfulness not pedantry) tenant: renter or occupant vs tenet: guiding principle
- kitsunesoba 4y agoNice catch, fixed.
- sangnoir 4y ago> Most people I think aren't opposed to well designed UI that incorporates a central tenant of Jobs', which is that design is functionality and not purely visual Jobs loved skeuomorpism, which isn't inherently bad, but having iOS UI elements reproduce the stitching from seats in his private jet skews close to "purely visual". Also, the (early) iOS date picker was unforgivable - I assume Jobs was aware of its existence & approved of its rubber-stamp-like, user-hostile skeuomorphic design
- kitsunesoba 4y agoExtreme skeuomorphism I would agree is purely visual, but I think there’s a lot of functional value in buttons looking like buttons and other visual indicators of function.