5 ms·

In the popular T.V. anthology American Horror Story, Steve Jobs is shown to be conversing with aliens in a UFO. I thought that was a really apt and funny depict

by mxkopy 3y ago

In the popular T.V. anthology American Horror Story, Steve Jobs is shown to be conversing with aliens in a UFO. I thought that was a really apt and funny depiction given how advanced Apple's tech is. Though the vision and leadership that keeps Apple on top to this day probably can't be given by extraterrestrials.

anthk 3y ago
Apple tech was not advanced. Back in the day Mac OS 9 was inferior to NT and years behind Linux 2.4 in stability and security. What you know today from Apple was stolen from NeXTStep and BSD's. You are basically using a rehashed NeXT environment with the Mac GUI on top.
- Terretta 3y ago
  > Apple was stolen from NeXTStep Who founded NeXT? Why? What happened to the IP?
- selectodude 3y ago
  Stolen? Do you mean purchased?
  - mturmon 3y ago
    Indeed, NeXTSTEP was purchased by Apple, as a part of NeXT Inc. NeXT Inc., in turn, was originally founded by some guy named Steve. So yeah, not exactly stolen.
    - anthk 3y ago
      Not "stolen" in a derogative way, but OFC I knew NeXT it's from Steve. But Apple without NeXT and BSD core it would die in 2001 against XP in the desktops. 2000 already was lights ahead Mac OS 9. In scientific Unix usage, GNU/Linux already won.
      - eloisant 3y ago
        Apple needed a new OS, for sure, just like Microsoft needed a new OS after their DOS-based Windows 9x branch. But there were other options than NeXT. They nearly bought Be (and BeOS) instead of NeXT and that might have worked. Also they could have built a new OS on top of BSD without NeXT, that might have worked as well. Of course by buying NeXT they also got Steve Jobs back and that's a big part of what made them successful in the 2000's. And by the way, Apple's rebirth in the 2000's was largely due to the iPod and iTunes more than MacOSX. It didn't really made a dent into XP's market share.
        anthk 3y ago
        NT borrowed a lot form VMS, I'm sure. But Apple took NeXTStep, a Mach kernel, did a facelift on the UI, and put Carbon and a Mac OS compat layer on top. On XP, well, MS's reaction was not as calm. They had to release Vista with tons of FX as OSX looked much better than XP. Everyone copied OSX' interface, even under GNU/Linux/BSD and Fluxbox envs.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- latexr 3y ago
  > What you know today from Apple was stolen from NeXTStep and BSD's. The BSD code is open-source with a permissive license. Even if we were to consider that stealing, how could they have stolen from NeXTSTEP when they acquired it and both parties wanted exactly that?
deleted 3y ago
[deleted]

by mxkopy 3y ago

anthk 3y ago

Apple tech was not advanced. Back in the day Mac OS 9 was inferior to NT and years behind Linux 2.4 in stability and security. What you know today from Apple was stolen from NeXTStep and BSD's. You are basically using a rehashed NeXT environment with the Mac GUI on top.

Terretta 3y ago
> Apple was stolen from NeXTStep Who founded NeXT? Why? What happened to the IP?
selectodude 3y ago
Stolen? Do you mean purchased?
- mturmon 3y ago
  Indeed, NeXTSTEP was purchased by Apple, as a part of NeXT Inc. NeXT Inc., in turn, was originally founded by some guy named Steve. So yeah, not exactly stolen.
  - anthk 3y ago
    Not "stolen" in a derogative way, but OFC I knew NeXT it's from Steve. But Apple without NeXT and BSD core it would die in 2001 against XP in the desktops. 2000 already was lights ahead Mac OS 9. In scientific Unix usage, GNU/Linux already won.
    - eloisant 3y ago
      Apple needed a new OS, for sure, just like Microsoft needed a new OS after their DOS-based Windows 9x branch. But there were other options than NeXT. They nearly bought Be (and BeOS) instead of NeXT and that might have worked. Also they could have built a new OS on top of BSD without NeXT, that might have worked as well. Of course by buying NeXT they also got Steve Jobs back and that's a big part of what made them successful in the 2000's. And by the way, Apple's rebirth in the 2000's was largely due to the iPod and iTunes more than MacOSX. It didn't really made a dent into XP's market share.
      - anthk 3y ago
        NT borrowed a lot form VMS, I'm sure. But Apple took NeXTStep, a Mach kernel, did a facelift on the UI, and put Carbon and a Mac OS compat layer on top. On XP, well, MS's reaction was not as calm. They had to release Vista with tons of FX as OSX looked much better than XP. Everyone copied OSX' interface, even under GNU/Linux/BSD and Fluxbox envs.
deleted 3y ago
[deleted]
latexr 3y ago
> What you know today from Apple was stolen from NeXTStep and BSD's. The BSD code is open-source with a permissive license. Even if we were to consider that stealing, how could they have stolen from NeXTSTEP when they acquired it and both parties wanted exactly that?

deleted 3y ago

[deleted]