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Time to learn about a relocation clause in the general employee agreement: Clause [X]: Relocation Expenses and Redundancy Protection The Company agrees to rei
by cleansy 3y ago
Time to learn about a relocation clause in the general employee agreement:
Clause [X]: Relocation Expenses and Redundancy Protection
The Company agrees to reimburse the Employee for reasonable and necessary relocation expenses incurred by the Employee in connection with the Employee's relocation to the work location specified in this Agreement, subject to the terms and conditions set forth herein ("Relocation Expenses").
The Relocation Expenses shall include, but not be limited to, the actual costs of moving the Employee's personal property, temporary housing expenses for up to [number] days, transportation costs for the Employee and their immediate family members, and any other reasonable and necessary expenses incurred as a direct result of the relocation, up to a maximum amount of $[amount].
The Employee shall provide the Company with receipts or other documentation evidencing the Relocation Expenses within [number] days of incurring such expenses. The Company shall reimburse the Employee for the Relocation Expenses within [number] days of receiving satisfactory documentation from the Employee.
In the event the Employee's role is made redundant before the Employee's start date, the Company shall still be liable for the reimbursement of the Relocation Expenses incurred by the Employee, provided that such expenses were incurred within [one (1) month] prior to the date the role is made redundant (the "Cut-Off Date").
The Company's obligation to reimburse the Employee's Relocation Expenses shall survive the termination of this Agreement for any reason, including but not limited to the Employee's role being made redundant before the Employee's start date.
If the Employee voluntarily terminates their employment with the Company within [one (1) year] of the Employee's start date, the Employee shall be required to repay to the Company, within [number] days of the termination date, a prorated portion of the Relocation Expenses reimbursed by the Company, calculated based on the percentage of the [one (1) year] period not completed by the Employee.
- ghaff 3y agoIt sounds like he may not have actually incurred any non-reimbursable expenses though other than maybe canceling an airline ticket. He's obviously incurred lots of disruption with associated costs (quitting job, getting rid of most of his stuff) but these aren't the sort of things that qualify for relocation expenses.
- cleansy 3y agoThis is not a fully-complete clause, yes, getting rid of stuff hurts and might not be coverable, but at least in this Case Google would have guaranteed to pay for the relocation. Other clauses could be that in the event of a redundancy before employment start, the signing bonus stays with the employee, etc. In his case, it still covers the financial blow to a degree, and he would have probably enough time to find a replacement job. Relocation costs are also money spent on Realtors, etc.
- jt2190 3y agoWouldn’t it be simpler to just ask for a signing bonus?
- samwillis 3y agoWhat's that from and in what jurisdiction?
- cleansy 3y agoIt's a general clause that any employee who is moving for a certain job should put into their contracts. If the company does not agree to cover at least the basics, then hey, maybe it's not a good idea to move for that job in the first place? EDIT: to your point, this should be enforceable in any jurisdiction that generally holds up with the law?
- slymon99 3y agoliterally no big tech employer is going to allow you to add clauses to your employment contract
- McSwag 3y agoLiterally they will if tech workers unionize, which has its own baggage and list of disadvantages for everyone but if tech companies get in a bad habit of treating employees poorly that’s exactly what will happen.
- AnimalMuppet 3y agoPerhaps so. But until that happens, I can't stick it in an employment contract.
- notahacker 3y agoAnd also, unions don't exist to give workers the ability to stick arbitrary clauses in employment contracts, they exist to try to lobby for better standard terms for union members. And relocation packages for new employees are a very long way down a union members' list of concerns, since people tend to join the union after they've relocated...
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- zippergz 3y agoPlease get back to me once you've gotten a multinational corporation to agree to this (or any other candidate-provided clause) for a non-executive employee.
- irorodkdj 3y ago[flagged]
- maxwell 3y agoHe was at Yandex.
- kdoxodks 3y ago[flagged]
- nurgasemetey 3y agoWow, smells like 1950s
- yakireev 3y ago> Was Bell hiring Soviet nationals in the heyday of UNIX? I doubt it Could they? Soviet Union did not let its citizens leave easily. It's different nowadays, and you'll be surprised to learn: - that Google an likes have more than enough offices outside the U.S. - that quite a lot of their employees are Russian citizens, Russia has been a talent pool for them for quite a while - that the war changed very little for their employment - and that Google did not stop hiring from Russia after the war began
- qikInNdOutReply 3y agoAre we calling those out now, who were ethical and left there home behind? This is a disgusting reply, very well to the anti-japanese craze in america during WW2..
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- brk 3y agoAs other commenters have mentioned, you're not going to be able to insert your own clauses into any standard employment agreement. However, every large employer has already relocated hundreds, if not thousands, of employees. They have similar clauses that are approved, but as a candidate you may need to ask to have such a clause included. Depending on the hiring market, the specific position, and your unique circumstances, you may or may not be able to get something added to the agreement, but it would rarely be unjustified to ask for some kind of relocation protection.
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- Dave3of5 3y agoAre you suggesting asking Google to add this to their contract ? If that's the case then you are delusional. These companies are "the law" and they will not change their contract for you. It's hard enough to even get a verbal offer from a company like Google far less get them to add relocation costs to a contract.
- HeyLaughingBoy 3y agoYou'd be surprised by what you can get by simply asking for it.
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- ascar 3y agoRelocation clauses are very common, often included right from the start in your initial offer and if not these big corps have prepared clauses that they can add upon request/negotiation.
- dgrin91 3y agoA much simpler solution I have seen to this that is _actually_ used in big companies is just relocation bonus paid on start. In short it basically goes 'Company agrees to pay you $X flat for your relocation. You are entitled to do whatever you want with this money, no questions asked. You may keep this money presuming you are not terminated for cause within Y months' X and Y negotiable of course.
- 300bps 3y agoAll of my “paid on start” bonuses/reimbursements were paid weeks after I started, often with my first paycheck.
- ivalm 3y agoThe point is that they would owe you this even if they let you go immediately. Obviously they implement it in a way that’s easier on their payroll system.
- PragmaticPulp 3y agoThe problem is that if you’re laid off before your start date, you wouldn’t get paid. Despite relocating.