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There’s needs to be some difficult barriers to entry beyond having the money to spend on training FLOPS in order for a startup to compete. I have no idea if th

There’s needs to be some difficult barriers to entry beyond having the money to spend on training FLOPS in order for a startup to compete. I have no idea if there are or there aren’t, but that’s the big question.

dr_dshiv 4y ago
I mean, this is just the beginning. Just wait till we get actual scifi robots in the next year or so. FWIW, I do find that Claude (Anthropic's GPT) is often better than GPT4 -- and very fast. Entrants can compete on price, safety, quality, etc.
- ethbr0 4y ago
  And a big moat is going to be safety... and specifically configuration of safety. Wouldn't be surprised at all if the major API-based vendors start leaning in on making their safety config proprietary. If a business has already sunk XXXX hours into ensuring a model meets their safety criteria for public-facing use, they'd rather upgrade to a newer model from the same vendor that guarantees portability of that, versus having to reinvest and recertify. Ergo, the AI PaaS that dominate at the beginning will likely continue to dominate.
  - dr_dshiv 4y ago
    Excellent point. Fine tuning is at a low point now, but i expect this to create a moat for the same reasons.
- comboy 4y ago
  Is it possible to test it somewhere?
  - dTal 4y ago
    https://poe.com/Claude-instant https://poe.com/Claude-instant It also provides a ChatGPT interface, and a number of other models.
- dTal 4y ago
  I find that Claude is more conversational (better fine tuning), but not as smart as even ChatGPT. Prompt: The original titles and release years in the Harry Potter series are: Philosopher's Stone (1997) Chamber of Secrets (1998) Prisoner of Azkaban (1999) Goblet of Fire (2000) Order of the Phoenix (2003) Half-Blood Prince (2005) Deathly Hallows (2007) Given this, generate a new Harry Potter title, using only the words found in the existing titles. Avoid orderings in the original titles. You may add or remove plurals and possessives. Results: ChatGPT: Blood Chamber of the Phoenix's Prisoner Claude-instant: Chamber Prince Half-Blood Phoenix
  - dr_dshiv 4y ago
    The question for me is whether they understand complex concepts and can apply them in new areas. So when I’m doing quantum computing work, I go back and forth between Claude and GPT4 and both complement the other very well.
  - phillipcarter 4y ago
    I find the opposite, claude-instant seems to generally give me better results for my use case. FWIW gpt-3.5-turbo is good too, just not quite as good.
  - kalkin 4y ago
    ChatGPT is more comparable to what Quora/Poe calls Claude+ - slower/more expensive/smarter. Claude-instant is closer to GPT-turbo in that tradeoff space.
    - dTal 4y ago
      Both bots are free on poe.com, so one is not more expensive than the other.

dr_dshiv 4y ago

I mean, this is just the beginning. Just wait till we get actual scifi robots in the next year or so. FWIW, I do find that Claude (Anthropic's GPT) is often better than GPT4 -- and very fast. Entrants can compete on price, safety, quality, etc.

ethbr0 4y ago
And a big moat is going to be safety... and specifically configuration of safety. Wouldn't be surprised at all if the major API-based vendors start leaning in on making their safety config proprietary. If a business has already sunk XXXX hours into ensuring a model meets their safety criteria for public-facing use, they'd rather upgrade to a newer model from the same vendor that guarantees portability of that, versus having to reinvest and recertify. Ergo, the AI PaaS that dominate at the beginning will likely continue to dominate.
- dr_dshiv 4y ago
  Excellent point. Fine tuning is at a low point now, but i expect this to create a moat for the same reasons.
comboy 4y ago
Is it possible to test it somewhere?
- dTal 4y ago
  https://poe.com/Claude-instant https://poe.com/Claude-instant It also provides a ChatGPT interface, and a number of other models.
dTal 4y ago
I find that Claude is more conversational (better fine tuning), but not as smart as even ChatGPT. Prompt: The original titles and release years in the Harry Potter series are: Philosopher's Stone (1997) Chamber of Secrets (1998) Prisoner of Azkaban (1999) Goblet of Fire (2000) Order of the Phoenix (2003) Half-Blood Prince (2005) Deathly Hallows (2007) Given this, generate a new Harry Potter title, using only the words found in the existing titles. Avoid orderings in the original titles. You may add or remove plurals and possessives. Results: ChatGPT: Blood Chamber of the Phoenix's Prisoner Claude-instant: Chamber Prince Half-Blood Phoenix
- dr_dshiv 4y ago
  The question for me is whether they understand complex concepts and can apply them in new areas. So when I’m doing quantum computing work, I go back and forth between Claude and GPT4 and both complement the other very well.
- phillipcarter 4y ago
  I find the opposite, claude-instant seems to generally give me better results for my use case. FWIW gpt-3.5-turbo is good too, just not quite as good.
- kalkin 4y ago
  ChatGPT is more comparable to what Quora/Poe calls Claude+ - slower/more expensive/smarter. Claude-instant is closer to GPT-turbo in that tradeoff space.
  - dTal 4y ago
    Both bots are free on poe.com, so one is not more expensive than the other.